sub 3s on scout car
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If you used everything out of the box, I think it would be very difficult to run Sub 3.0. Especially on graphite.
3.035 is about the best we could do on our track which is a 40' Freedom. I think this track tends to be a little slower than a Best Track.
The 2.0 gram wheels will surely help. We are not allowed to use lightened wheels.
3.035 is about the best we could do on our track which is a 40' Freedom. I think this track tends to be a little slower than a Best Track.
The 2.0 gram wheels will surely help. We are not allowed to use lightened wheels.
We are running straight out of the box parts at MID AM and I will be back here to let you know if it can be done.. I have the wheels down to 2 grams, axles are smoothed not grooved..... Our car with rear fenders no paint sits @ 15.4 grams... Once the car is painted I will post a pic and stats after the race... We just want to finish all the heats... Graphite is going to be tuff as it does not last even if you get to add some prior to finals.....
With literally all stock out of the box parts we got 3.08 average and a best time of 3.0622. Did axle polish and pledge as well as wheel bore polish. At the end of the race I discovered that one of the back wheels was wobbling and may be misshaped. The graphite wear on the tread weaved from the edge to partway into the middle as I turned the wheel. So if I actually bought extra sets of axles and wheels to pick out the truest wheels and straightest axles I think we could have shaved a significant amount of time. We also didn't have the most ideal body shape, was pretty fat in the back where I drilled holes for cylinder weights, half the weights were the cheap 99% lead free(nickel?) and the other half tungsten.
From what I have read getting sub 3 is pretty tough. That last hundredth of a seconds are exponentially tougher.
From what I have read getting sub 3 is pretty tough. That last hundredth of a seconds are exponentially tougher.
Are we talking a scout car on John's track or a scout race? Let's not forgot not all tracks are the same. So a sub 3 time on your scouts track might be like a Pro time on John's. All depends on the setup. I don't worry about the times per say. I just try and improve on them each month. Which I'm proving to not do so well with that :/
Just had council race sat. Graphite only!! 1 grams and 92s. We all ran sub threes. With everything stock I do not think we could. I know some can do it! But I can not run sub 3 on race day so go figure that.
Good luck u can do it. Let us know how u do !!!!!
Good luck u can do it. Let us know how u do !!!!!
Well Thats My Goal For Next Year, We Ran 3.1 This Year Snd Was Called Cheaters That There IS No Way Without Cheated Parts We Could Be Tha Fast, I Want To Blow There Minds Next Year And Prove After That Its "Stock" Ive Learned So Much In The Short Time On This Site I Think We Can Do It With Better Prep
Best a boy I helped this year could do was low-to-mid teens with Scout sized axles and close to 2g wheels using graphite lube and red rocket. I wouldn't be surprised though if the very best builders could get there using similar equipment on a perfectly aligned car with fenders and good tuning.
I was temped to move the raised wheel to the back, just in front of his rear wheel (old trick), but instead went with balsa fenders which only weighed about 1.2g total and seemed to speed the car up at least 5 thousandths. (Hard to get good comparisons using graphite lube.)
I think that same setup with oil would certainly do it. Maybe also with Coach's lube.
I was temped to move the raised wheel to the back, just in front of his rear wheel (old trick), but instead went with balsa fenders which only weighed about 1.2g total and seemed to speed the car up at least 5 thousandths. (Hard to get good comparisons using graphite lube.)
I think that same setup with oil would certainly do it. Maybe also with Coach's lube.
Sub 3 is a dilemma I have been chasing for a while. We also race on a 42' Freedom, and I have only been able to manage 3.023. Its not easy with graphite, but I still think it is doable. Send a car into MA using the actual parts from within the box with a standard WB (nothing purchased other than weights and no lightening of the wheels, but the wheels were relocated) and I think I'm close close but no cigar (the car has a theme so it is not flat and a scout car really would not have fenders etc.). The wheels a sloppy on the axles, no oil, no lathe, and no block (but a block and prss are in my near future) make this a really tough challenge.
This "goal" has cause me to buy a test track.
This "goal" has cause me to buy a test track.
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