New Items ALL NEW OIL! ROCKET FUEL!

[Pacfanweb]

From what I read, you need the black ice and follow all of the instructions he provides to get full speed of the new oil.

Yeah, I get that, but I was wondering if it was superior to the old oil if you used it with Red Rocket. I understand that it won't be as fast as if you used with with Black Ice.

 

[B_Regal Racing]

I thought we were getting away from pipe cleaners? I was expecting No Scratch Wheel Bore Applicators in this new kit.

So...does the Rocket Fuel require the Black Ice process to be faster, or will it be faster for those who still have Red Rocket as well?

From what I read, you need the black ice and follow all of the instructions he provides to get full speed of the new oil.

When I look at my own history, I am much faster than I was a year ago, and I have not significantly changed any of the products that I use. What I am constantly changing is how I apply those products. Is "Black Ice" faster? Who knows; I'm sure it will be for some. It might be slower for others. Same with the different oils that are coming out. I could not get hat D-1 oil to run for me. I'm sure it works for someone, but their application is probably quite different than mine. I just bought off on the D-1 hype. The only way anyone is going to know if Black Ice is faster is by trying it, and figuring out the proper method of application. I will say John left a very detailed set of instructions, which when I read them, started me thinking about my own process and possible ways to improve it. There is chance is does not work as well; same with John's new oil. I bet anyone this - it works for John.

Pipe cleaners - that is part of the application of a product (e.g. Novus2). There is nothing wrong with pipe cleaners as long as you do not scratch your bore. Some folks have migrated away from pipe cleaners for various reasons and now use a different application process for the same product, to protect the bores. In all of the different items used to polish a bore (pipe cleaners, no scratch applicators, q-tip stalks, etc.), there is a different effect due to the material, pressure in the bore, etc. I'm personally not a fan of pipe cleaners or q-tip stalks, only because they did not work for me, but it does not mean it will not work for you. As for my own process, I'm a creature needing feedback throughout my prep process (statistical, measurable, visual, or otherwise), and as such, have purchase tools that help me evaluate my axle and bore prep, so I can tell if I have made an improvement or if I am regressing before it makes it to the car. Watch the Lightning Boy video; that's a great example of what I am referring to.

I'm not trying to hide how I prep my cars (not that I have anything worth hiding), but I would bet any top racer would say is application of whatever you are using is half of the battle. And yes, I bought two bottles of John’s new oil…for testing. Sorry for the rant, but just sharing what I know to be true, that application can be just as much of a factor (or more of a factor) as the products you use when it comes to speed.

 

[Ballistic Racing]

Well, this is a no brainer, can't let JBD get too far ahead of me... Bulldog, JBD, look out, I'm comin for ya! Lol! If there's anything I've learned from slots & now PWD is that technology is progressing faster & faster every year. I've got boxes full of old set ups, armatures, tires, gears, chassis that were once top of the line & now, eBay items, all part of the chase to keep up with the next guy (or Ca$h). That's why we're all here right? & don't forget FUN!!!

 

[True North Racing]

Placed my order for the new oil last night and now just placed my order for the Black Ice.
I am still working on learning the "old" oil and now get to start learning the new stuff. lol
John - If my wife ever calls you and tells you to quit selling me stuff...ignore her! Thanks again for your help with combining my two orders.

 

[Mister B Racing]

It's simple as RACERS we Race to win.. Those that say they don't WHY are you racing.. ( I sand bag when needed )If people only knew the money I've spent testing waxes, Getting new bottle of johns oil .. And wasting a new bottle by trying to cut it and add additives etc.. And at the end of the day his oil is faster lol.. Racer race cause it's a addiction!! Vendor sale to make MONEY!!why have a business if you can't make money and create new products. If we don't have vendors like John pushing the cars to the next limit and racers proving the product we wouldn't have a league.. Be thankful it's out there before Nationals.. I haven't tested the oil but I put my order in for 2 bottle and wax also.. If it's as fast as advertised.. People better get to work for Nationals cause it's gonna wake my cars up.. JBD RACING

Good points. I think new technology is good for racing. It causes everyone to re-look at what they are doing with their builds and the products they are using. Will everyone be faster with new technology - no - but some will be. As more people start using the newer products and information on the processes to using them start to come out more racers will get faster.

This does not mean the older products are slow. Racers are finding ways to be faster with older products all of the time. I still use Red Rocket and Wheel Bore Polish #1 and by trying some different ways of applying them and drying them I have gotten faster. Last month at NPWDRL I finished third in the Eliminator Finals. Two months ago I won at APR in the Cubby Pure Stock class.

I still am using old products but by listening to top racers like JBD, Kinser, DD4H, TRE and others that keep saying be detailed in your prep process, keep a clean work space, take lots of notes, race yourself, the speed is there no matter what product you use, it may take a while to find it, but the speed is there.

 

[Cramjet]

I have to admit something kinda funny. I sometimes need Ambien to fall asleep but that's when I order the most pinewood derby stuff and often have absolutely no idea I did it until I check my e-mail the next day. Fortunately I don't go overkill on what I buy.

 

[TRE]

sometimes i am like Donald Trump... i let my mouth get the best of me

 

[Cramjet]

I just got the Black Ice polish system and Rocket Fuel today. GREAT job with the quick shipping!

This seems very different. I only got past the #1 polish so far, but the wheels already look pretty good. I still have three steps left.

It appears the first two polishes are abrasives. The first one is definitely not Novus. It's a cream more like Cheetah Kiss polish. The second one is more like Novus #2.

Then you have a polish similar to Red Rocket (I know what it is, it is better, and have been using that since my first race), then you have a liquid or oil to add before the Rocket Fuel oil.