DD4H Products - How Good?

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There has been a lot of discussion about oil and wax lately. My son just competed in his district pinewood derby this past weekend. He and I built his car in January. We prepped the wheels with Red Rocket and DD4H oil. We had to use stock axles per the rules. He won his pack race in January and he qualified for district in May. I put the car on the shelf and it was not touched between races. We did not re-prep his car for district. It ran on a 4 1/2 month old prep and performed better in May than it did in January. It ran .03 faster 5 months later. The bottle of oil is 2 years old that we used. John's stuff is the bomb just saying. Yes he did win the district but the second place car at district was built by a father and son who purchased DD4H products to great success. The dad called John to receive some tips. He put them them in contention to win it all. The previous year they finished last in their pack. This year his son walked away with two nice trophies and huge smile /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif.
 
Congratulations to you and your son, Reso.
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Awesome job Reso and congrats to you and your son!!

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And what a great testimony for DD4H products and this forum!

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Way to go Reso!!! Bet your boy is gonna get bit hard by the PWD bug if he hasn't already/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif

Were you using jig by any chance and how long did you let the wax cure?
 
Thanks guys for the congrats! After 7 years of scouts, now on son number 2, I would hope I've learned a few things!

Eccentric,

I do use jig, its all I know how to use. I'm a big less is more guy when it comes to wax and jig. I use a thin coat of wax that I let dry for 30 minutes. I buff the snot out of it after that...LOL. I'm a light burst guy on the jig as well, I also let it dry for 30 minutes. I also pay real close attention to particles in my wheel bores and fibers on my axles. When I finally bought a jewelers loupe I couldn't believe how contamanated my prep process use to be. Same with oil, one sometimes two drops.
 
Awesome info Reso! Looks like thin to win comes down to prep and body design.
 
The Eccentric said:
Awesome info Reso! Looks like thin to win comes down to prep and body design.

That is part of the equation.....alignment is the key. You can have the greatest prep in the world. You could be doing the quicktime prep and you wouldn't know it without proper alignment. Trust me I spent 2 years trying to find the perfect prep. I tried more things than I care to remember. It wasn't until I really worked on my alignment (slow rolling and really looking at was going on with my car) that I learned my prep was good all along. So take that into consideration before you believe prep only is why your car may not be that fast.
 
Resophonic Racing said:
Thanks guys for the congrats! After 7 years of scouts, now on son number 2, I would hope I've learned a few things!

Eccentric,

I do use jig, its all I know how to use. I'm a big less is more guy when it comes to wax and jig. I use a thin coat of wax that I let dry for 30 minutes. I buff the snot out of it after that...LOL. I'm a light burst guy on the jig as well, I also let it dry for 30 minutes. I also pay real close attention to particles in my wheel bores and fibers on my axles. When I finally bought a jewelers loupe I couldn't believe how contamanated my prep process use to be. Same with oil, one sometimes two drops.

Are you talking about wax on the wheel bore or layering wax then jig on the axles? I have only read about coating axles with either jig for oil or pledge for graphite.
 
Just jig on the axles. I know there have been others who have burnished with jig after it is completely dry and non toxic to wheels. Pony has done some interesting work in that department.
 
That is what I thought. From the way it was written I seemed that you were talking about waxing the axle first then spraying jig on it.

"I use a thin coat of wax that I let dry for 30 minutes. I buff the snot out of it after that...LOL. I'm a light burst guy on the jig as well, I also let it dry for 30 minutes"
 
Resophonic Racing said:
The Eccentric said:
Awesome info Reso! Looks like thin to win comes down to prep and body design.

That is part of the equation.....alignment is the key. You can have the greatest prep in the world. You could be doing the quicktime prep and you wouldn't know it without proper alignment. Trust me I spent 2 years trying to find the perfect prep. I tried more things than I care to remember. It wasn't until I really worked on my alignment (slow rolling and really looking at was going on with my car) that I learned my prep was good all along. So take that into consideration before you believe prep only is why your car may not be that fast.

This was one incredibly accurate statement! Congrats to you and your son.

Scott
 
I like to visualize my rear wheel holes as the beginning of laser beams that shoot out into space. If my drill is off even a trillionth of a degree by the time the laser beam reaches another galaxy the trajectory will be far from parallel from the other drilled holes laser beam. To sight in a rifle scope special bullet shells with built in laser beams are used, I hope the future holds something similar for checking accuracy of a PWD car.

And speaking of the quality of Johns products words alone fail to do them justice. Hands down the best there is- period...