Death of Street Rod?? POLL!!!
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I just bought a model and was planning on building one also. I’m in with either 4 or 3 wheel. I just hope I didn’t waste the $20.
The rules WILL BE CHANGING! We are going back to 3 wheels touching. We are also changing it to any 1/25th scale AMT model car 1979 or older. No 1/24's! All the other rules will apply. You must list the model# of the car you are using so it can be cross referenced.
If I do this one do I gotta rock the junk on top too or just the body?
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/ghostbusters-ecto-1a-model-kit-442756/
Is there a height limit?
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/ghostbusters-ecto-1a-model-kit-442756/
Is there a height limit?
Sorry, but I can see this spiraling out of control in a hurry with the "any 1/25th scale AMT model car 1979 or older".
Cases in point:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMT-MULTI-MAVERICK-OHIO-GEORGE-FUNNY-CAR-FS-Model-Car-Mountain-KIT-1-25-/140971621630
http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-CHEVY-CAMARO-FUNNY-CAR-AMT-Model-King-plastic-kit-/380580848507
Maybe "street-cars only (not show, funny, customs, etc.)". Maybe limit to the muscle car era of '66 - '74?
Granted, my ideas don't carry much weight as I've yet to race here, but I would hate to see this class die.
Cases in point:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMT-MULTI-MAVERICK-OHIO-GEORGE-FUNNY-CAR-FS-Model-Car-Mountain-KIT-1-25-/140971621630
http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-CHEVY-CAMARO-FUNNY-CAR-AMT-Model-King-plastic-kit-/380580848507
Maybe "street-cars only (not show, funny, customs, etc.)". Maybe limit to the muscle car era of '66 - '74?
Granted, my ideas don't carry much weight as I've yet to race here, but I would hate to see this class die.
I don't see your point. The bodies are not that different. Without the extenders there is not much advantage. THe smaller cars are shorter and the longer cars are taller. The only problem comes when people modify the bodies. Not sure how it can spiral down any further. It is almost dead. Are you planning to race?
Crash Enburn said:
I may be way off base here, but aren't (weren't) funny cars longer than the stock vehicle on which they're based? Weren't the wheelbases altered? And, it sure looks to me like the rear overhang is shortened as well. A longer PWD car with a shorter rear overhang will be faster based solely on where you can place the weight relative to the starting pin.
I do want to race. I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about it. But my wife is intensely jealous of my time and dislikes the amount of time I've spent on the AGP and the PWD with the kids -- to the point that this year we built our cars over a period of four days (two days per class, both races in the same week -- and I ran both). On top of that, I have only graphite and don't want to bring a cacophony of "Dammit, Crash!" as the graphite spreads like tribbles on the Enterprise.
I shall now return to under my rock and continue to watch the goings on.
I do want to race. I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about it. But my wife is intensely jealous of my time and dislikes the amount of time I've spent on the AGP and the PWD with the kids -- to the point that this year we built our cars over a period of four days (two days per class, both races in the same week -- and I ran both). On top of that, I have only graphite and don't want to bring a cacophony of "Dammit, Crash!" as the graphite spreads like tribbles on the Enterprise.
I shall now return to under my rock and continue to watch the goings on.
Crash Enburn, John is just trying to put some life into a division that is really cool, but is basically on life support. QT came up with a great rule set earlier in the year that was more restrictive to try and equal the playing field, but that didn't help participation. Now John is making the build easier and opening it back up a bit to try and increase participation for Nationals. You don't need to crawl under a rock.
It is lonely under the rock. Time to come out and play even if it is with graphite.
Anytime rules come up it turns into an issue as everyone will never be happy with all rules. I can only go by past experience when coming to a final decision. There is nothing personal here with anyone, decisions have to be made. This is the last effort with this class. Too many classes = TOO MUCH STRESS on the builders.
Anytime rules come up it turns into an issue as everyone will never be happy with all rules. I can only go by past experience when coming to a final decision. There is nothing personal here with anyone, decisions have to be made. This is the last effort with this class. Too many classes = TOO MUCH STRESS on the builders.
Crash Enburn said:
I will run this class whatever the rules are. The 4 wheel touching isn't as bad as it seems however 3 wheel would be less stress full for everyone and one less rule to bend (pun intended). I agree only production cars from AMT in street trim. No concept cars, limousines or hearse and such. However a special top fuel dragster race would be cool too but more complicated.
The 4 wheels touching was all John, I hated the idea of it. But after running it a few times it wasn't such a big deal. The reason for the limited body's is because of rule stretching. It can be very difficult to tell when someone has modified the body of these cars to get that extra little advantage. Only having the 3 body make it easy to identify modification. Opening it up to all makes 79-older will make it very difficult to monitor body modification. I don't think the rules being changed will get any more participation, we just have to except it like it is low volume # of racers, if it's to much of a pain to run 3-9 cars kill it.
5KidsRacing said:
Did we ever really figure out what was keeping people from sending cars in? I know that some people bought one of the three kits, but didn't send in anything. Apparently they were alright with the choices, but then something else happened. I'm not sure if this poll really answers that.
Heres the trick...You have to ask her (the lovely wife) to help design it or maybe build one together (make hers faster). Also if all you need is some oil to get you to build a Street Rod, I will have John send you some on my dime!
And if you are nice maybe some jig too again on my dime!
Buy your (her) car and build it like you want. Talk to your wife and ask her what her favorite hot rod was and what her favorite color is (you should know that anyway) and build this car with her and ask her for lots of help even if you dont need it! BUY your car let me know if you want to take me up on my offer but it is only for you Crash!!! C'mon, you are not a Ford guy are ya haha!!!
Crash Enburn said:
I just got the 69 Gtx and If I can get this car to run well l then can do well in the Street Stock the only 2 differences are the 6 oz weight and a Plastic model body
Wow, Chief. That sounds like an offer I can't refuse. I doubt I can generate interest from the wife, though. So, I shall have to attack the honey-do list with fervor to win her favor... I can get this done in under 1.5 mos. /images/boards/smilies/smile.gif
Thanks for the nudge, Chief!
I'm curious, what kind of modifications were you seeing? Chopping the roof or relocating a wheel well is a skill *I* don't possess.
Thanks for the nudge, Chief!
Quicktimederby said:
I'm curious, what kind of modifications were you seeing? Chopping the roof or relocating a wheel well is a skill *I* don't possess.
I've dug out my finest flogging stick to beat this dead horse...
I've thought long and hard about this. Please re-instate the limited model lineup. I was looking at buying an overdog model and keeping it to myself until it showed up at the June race. But I'd rather not see this turn into a single-model race. While that could still be cool, I like the idea of variety but still in keeping with a somewhat level playing field.
TedBull asked about the '71 Charger. I looked at its long nose. And then I remembered another model. Based on the Charger. The 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona. Where Dodge took a '69 Charger and stuck a 2' nose cone onto it.
In model form, this model is just a hair over 9" long, w/ the rear wheels 6.56" back from the nose. By comparison, the GTX should be 8.1" long, with it's rear wheels 5.8 - 6.0" back (based on internet pics). The Daytona would have an advantage of 1/2" - 3/4". Not to mention the aerodynamics.
I propose limiting the models to the original three bodies, plus the '69 Olds Cutlass (1:25 scale, all). Perhaps others if given a pass by the group. Also, MPC and AMT are owned by the same company, and actually share molds, so possibly opening it up to MPC as well would possibly add in cars like the '67 and/or '72 GTO. I'm hesitant to include the Charger (sorry, TedBull) due to its (already) rather long nose.
Three wheels touching.
I've thought long and hard about this. Please re-instate the limited model lineup. I was looking at buying an overdog model and keeping it to myself until it showed up at the June race. But I'd rather not see this turn into a single-model race. While that could still be cool, I like the idea of variety but still in keeping with a somewhat level playing field.
TedBull asked about the '71 Charger. I looked at its long nose. And then I remembered another model. Based on the Charger. The 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona. Where Dodge took a '69 Charger and stuck a 2' nose cone onto it.
In model form, this model is just a hair over 9" long, w/ the rear wheels 6.56" back from the nose. By comparison, the GTX should be 8.1" long, with it's rear wheels 5.8 - 6.0" back (based on internet pics). The Daytona would have an advantage of 1/2" - 3/4". Not to mention the aerodynamics.
I propose limiting the models to the original three bodies, plus the '69 Olds Cutlass (1:25 scale, all). Perhaps others if given a pass by the group. Also, MPC and AMT are owned by the same company, and actually share molds, so possibly opening it up to MPC as well would possibly add in cars like the '67 and/or '72 GTO. I'm hesitant to include the Charger (sorry, TedBull) due to its (already) rather long nose.
Three wheels touching.
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