Firewater
- Thread starter Crash Enburn
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Thank you, Chief!
I did get it on track last night. We were testing our scout rules cars (four wheels touching flat) and turning in 2.57xx's. I put Firewater on the track and it ran a 2.4920 on its first run. /images/boards/smilies/smile.gif
The COM is a little more aggessive than I'd normally want -- it's about 1/2". I should reposition the canopy forward (it's poured lead w/ a screw in it to hold it to the car), but lack the time and wifely permission.
I do have a question, though: How should the wheels be attached? Opa sent me some needle axles and razor wheels with brass bushings fitted (HUGE thanks to OPA!!). Along with the wheels and axles were small, black plastic bushings/stops, and some tiny clear sleeves. I *think* the sleeves are just to protect the axles, not to run on the car. There were also three extra brass bushings sent too. Should a bushing be placed between the plastic bushings/stops and the wheels? Should I be using the sleeves? I've NO experience with these needle axles.
- Eric
I did get it on track last night. We were testing our scout rules cars (four wheels touching flat) and turning in 2.57xx's. I put Firewater on the track and it ran a 2.4920 on its first run. /images/boards/smilies/smile.gif
The COM is a little more aggessive than I'd normally want -- it's about 1/2". I should reposition the canopy forward (it's poured lead w/ a screw in it to hold it to the car), but lack the time and wifely permission.
I do have a question, though: How should the wheels be attached? Opa sent me some needle axles and razor wheels with brass bushings fitted (HUGE thanks to OPA!!). Along with the wheels and axles were small, black plastic bushings/stops, and some tiny clear sleeves. I *think* the sleeves are just to protect the axles, not to run on the car. There were also three extra brass bushings sent too. Should a bushing be placed between the plastic bushings/stops and the wheels? Should I be using the sleeves? I've NO experience with these needle axles.
- Eric
Oh if I was only related to father time...That is one of the biggest issues I think everyone of us has or the lack there of... The wife, just my philosophy but for me I seem to have better luck asking for forgiveness than for permission haha it works! As for the razor wheels, I am afraid I am of no help there, I have never built one yet for primarily the same reasons...lack of time, money oh and Xperience too. How long is your track?
Great looking car!! As far as the needle axles and wheels I would not be much help. But I do believe that each wheel should have two bushings, a inner and a outer. That might be why you have 3 left over.
My testing was done on a 35' Besttrack.
There are two bushings per wheel. I just have three extra, and wonder if they should be put on the outboard side of the wheel.
One other Q: How much steer should there be on a razor wheeled car? I didn't see a means to adjust the steering last night, and it was steering pretty hard -- probably 6-8" over 8' (maybe even more).
TIA,
- Eric
There are two bushings per wheel. I just have three extra, and wonder if they should be put on the outboard side of the wheel.
One other Q: How much steer should there be on a razor wheeled car? I didn't see a means to adjust the steering last night, and it was steering pretty hard -- probably 6-8" over 8' (maybe even more).
TIA,
- Eric
Update:
Long story short: I won. My son won. /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif
Short story long:
"Firewater" took the victory, despite the best efforts of the check-in team. I built this car up according to the rules (http://www.doubleknot.com/openrosters/DocDownload.aspx?orgkey=1984&id=106955) but when I was checking in, they wouldn't let it run as a three-wheeler. "But the rules don't SAY that!"
"See, right here, 'No '3-wheeled' cars allowed'."
"The rules say, 'Wheels and Axles -- Up to You'"
"You have to have four wheels touching."
"But the rules don't SAY that!"
Luckily, I had a replacement set of wheels and an extra axle with me. I turned the DFW to lower the front end (and increase steer!), and got the fourth wheel to touch.
It wasn't quite the 'crushing all comers' victory I was hoping for, but convincing all the same.
The timer for the Bears' race got a little flaky. My son was turning in runs in the low 3.14s and high 3.13s, and winning by more than a car length. The next closest time was 3.17xx. And then, one race, a car turned in a time of 2.29xx seconds. I ran down to the track and cried 'foul'. They came back with, "The time stands."
Gahhh!!!
Thankfully, the chairman got involved, and the time was negated. And my son got his well-deserved win!
So, aside from all the stress, it turned out to be a pretty great night.
Long story short: I won. My son won. /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif
Short story long:
"Firewater" took the victory, despite the best efforts of the check-in team. I built this car up according to the rules (http://www.doubleknot.com/openrosters/DocDownload.aspx?orgkey=1984&id=106955) but when I was checking in, they wouldn't let it run as a three-wheeler. "But the rules don't SAY that!"
"See, right here, 'No '3-wheeled' cars allowed'."
"The rules say, 'Wheels and Axles -- Up to You'"
"You have to have four wheels touching."
"But the rules don't SAY that!"
Luckily, I had a replacement set of wheels and an extra axle with me. I turned the DFW to lower the front end (and increase steer!), and got the fourth wheel to touch.
It wasn't quite the 'crushing all comers' victory I was hoping for, but convincing all the same.
The timer for the Bears' race got a little flaky. My son was turning in runs in the low 3.14s and high 3.13s, and winning by more than a car length. The next closest time was 3.17xx. And then, one race, a car turned in a time of 2.29xx seconds. I ran down to the track and cried 'foul'. They came back with, "The time stands."
Gahhh!!!
Thankfully, the chairman got involved, and the time was negated. And my son got his well-deserved win!
So, aside from all the stress, it turned out to be a pretty great night.
Crash Enburn said:Update:
Long story short: I won.
Short story long:
"Firewater" took the victory, despite the best efforts of the check-in team. I built this car up according to the rules (http://www.doubleknot.com/openrosters/DocDownload.aspx?orgkey=1984&id=106955) but when I was checking in, they wouldn't let it run as a three-wheeler. "But the rules don't SAY that!"
"See, right here, 'No '3-wheeled' cars allowed'."
"The rules say, 'Wheels and Axles -- Up to You'"
"You have to have four wheels touching."
"But the rules don't SAY that!"
Luckily, I had a replacement set of wheels and an extra axle with me. I turned the DFW to lower the front end (and increase steer!), and got the fourth wheel to touch.
It wasn't quite the 'crushing all comers' victory I was hoping for, but convincing all the same.
The timer for the Bears' race got a little flaky. My son was turning in runs in the low 3.14s and high 3.13s, and winning my more than a car length. Next closes time was 3.17xx. And then, one race, a car turned in a time of 2.29xx. I ran down to the track and cried 'foul'. They came back with, "The time stands."
Thankfully, the chairman got involved, and the time was negated. And my son got his well-deserved win!
So, aside from all the stress, it turned out to be a pretty great night.
Good for you... I hate when folks write rules and have no idea what they're doing or what they're talking about. I had a similar situation last year.
We had the original axle locations stated as the wheelbase along with the dimension called out. When we got to tech, we saw all kinds of long wheelbase cars. When I inquired as to how they passed tech since the rules stated "original axle locations and wheelbase," I was told: "yes... and there was also a dimension given. The dimension was wrong." To which I replied, "so what? The statement 'original location' trumps anything else. It's straight forward and nothing ambiguous about it. Original location is original location!"
I was soon surrounded by several "leaders" that basically told me if I didn't like it, we "didn't have to race. I thanked them for teaching the kids how to play by the rules... we of course raced, then handed them their collective asses... short wheelbase and all. /images/boards/smilies/smile.gif
No one wants to be "that guy..." but sometimes you're left with no choice.
So, good on you!
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