Mid america

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I've got a few comments and then a question or two about MA. I am impressed by the event put on by Mid America. I am also thankful that I have found an outlet to race every month.

I had no idea what to expect when I shipped my son's (and daughters) cars off to MA. I came to this site several months ago looking for help. I have read from this site every single day (usually several hours/ day). I built the cars and knew I had a faster car than ever, but I really didn't know if we'd be embarrassed or not. I just wanted to break 3.00.

We ran a 4 race average of 2.9513. It wasn't enough to win or anything. But I was extremely happy with that for a first time racer. Is it possible that those runs were somehow inflated?????

My question: How much speed would we have gained by using fenders? Would it have put us anywhere close to the low 2.9201 posted by the fastest racer? How much do fenders help?

John already has 2 of my BASX cars for the May race and I'd like to get fenders on this one and see what it can do. You guys should have told me long ago how much fun racing is!!!!!!!
 
The one take away that I noted from the scout oil is that the top 2 cars put their raised wheel in front of their rear wheel on the dominant side. This allowed for only 3 fenders, one less point on the car to cut through the air. From what I remember after last year's MA I thought Greg was going to add the rule that front and back wheels needed to be installed directly across from each other. I guess I remembered wrong or he changed his mind.

We still have some learning to do for fenders and even doing 45* NDFWs. As well as still perfecting our wheel/axle prep process and tuning. Both the scout car and BASX car had pretty big deviations depending on which side the rest of the traffic was on.
 
The last .03 is always the hardest. The family who won has won quite a few times, they're fast and have been doing it for a while. Just stay at it.
 
The one take away that I noted from the scout oil is that the top 2 cars put their raised wheel in front of their rear wheel on the dominant side. This allowed for only 3 fenders, one less point on the car to cut through the air. From what I remember after last year's MA I thought Greg was going to add the rule that front and back wheels needed to be installed directly across from each other. I guess I remembered wrong or he changed his mind.

I noticed the 3x1 configuration as well. At first, I thought it was a 3 wheel car, and I was CERTAIN the rules said 4 wheels. If you noticed, the fender was moved just in front of the "dummy" wheel. Wish I had thought of it. The Dude just outsmarted me
 
I concur it was not the same car. Similar wheel placement - Yes!

Sucks that he was so dang fast and gives hope for more speed all at the same time if you can swalllow it......................
 
Knotty Racing said:
I concur it was not the same car. Similar wheel placement - Yes!

Sucks that he was so dang fast and gives hope for more speed all at the same time if you can swalllow it......................

Last years car was faster. Bad news is they still have one year of eligibility left. Watch out for us in 2017!!!
 
Was it faster or was there a track/staging difference?

Is there enough difference to be considered statistically significant?

The sample size is pretty small at 5 runs.

2014 prelim .9183
2014 final .9180

2015 prelim .9221
2015 final .9214

So differences of;

Prelim .0038
Finals .0034

I saw a .0026 difference on my own personal car from a pro staging it, compared to my own staging in 2013.

Too small of a number for me to get caught up in. Now if that was 10x that then I would be sharpening my pencil.
 
I thought about doing the three wheels on one side but chickened out in the end...thought it might be too much to be considered my son doing it. Now seeing that no one threw a fit, I will consider it for next year if he's still interested. /images/boards/smilies/wink.gif