Monokote - Not happy

Feb 23, 2014
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Well I did a car this time with MonoKote but I was disappointed, the shrinkage was minimal with a heat-gun. (I'm a newbie at this!!) The Backing is sticky but I would think that after hitting it with a heat gun there would be zero wrinkles and you could bounce a quarter off of it.

UltraCote any better?
 
I tried the MonoKote the other day and had the same problem. I then tried glueing the stuff down and then the heat gun. It was a real mess. I think it will take a steep learning curve, but the winter is coming and I want to avoid painting this winter.
 
pony express said:
I tried the MonoKote the other day and had the same problem. I then tried glueing the stuff down and then the heat gun. It was a real mess. I think it will take a steep learning curve, but the winter is coming and I want to avoid painting this winter.

When I built RC airplanes and used it I would always leave it plenty big. I would tack down the one side with the monokote iron and then get a hold of the excess and pull it as tight as I could and tack it down. If you do this your use of the heat gun will be minimal to get the wrinkles out............ and yes, you can bounce a quarter off of it..........word of warning, you can actually warp the wood it will get that tight.
 
The MonoKote that comes in roles is very difficult to get perfectly flat after shrinkage.
You must apply it after putting in the weights, except for the Puma wheel weights.
In other words, shape the car's body, put in the internal weights, Then cut a piece of MonoKote that is at least 4 inches wider than the car body (both from the sides and the rear and front ends).
Be sure to use the kind of heat iron that the model airplane guys use. It is shaped like a boat, about 2/5 inches long and 1.5 inches wide, with rounded edges on all sides, and the front point of the boat has a 3/4" slant upwards. Go to an airplane shop and look at it.
without this heating tool, other irons or air dryers don't work.
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I like the MonoKote most because it is the lightest. I hate most because it is so hard to get out the wrinkles.
Many times I have to tear off what I applied, and start again, sometimes 3 or 4 times.
However because of all the difficulties getting the wrinkles out, I seldom use it any more, but it is beautiful when you get it applied correctly.

The best and easiest to apply is EconoKote (however it sometimes comes under the name of MonoKote also). It comes in sheets with backing, so when you remove the backing, the result is sticky on one side.
Very easy to apply. You can even cut the exact shape out, stick it on and iron it on. It is very easy to apply with no wrinkles. But when you apply it, and as you iron it on, you must iron from the center out towards the sides and back. That is so there are no air bubbles. If I miss, and get an air bubble, you can also use a pin prick on the bubble and still iron it out flawlessly.

http://www.monokote.com/econokote.html

You can buy from this site directly, or go to the tab showing dealers by Zip code.

PM me if you want more information. However I will be out of the country during the last 3 weeks of September. That leaves this week only, or in October before I can reply.
 
~JBD RACING~ said:
I use straight vinyl.. And have no trouble..

Where do you get it, and does it have to be glued or is there one with a sticky back?
Also, do you have any idea about it's weight as compared to either EconoKote (strips) or MonoKote (rolls).
My guess is that it is heavier than both, but I don't know.
 
Bullet said:
I use sticky monokote flat sheets, but don't worry about heating/ironing, just stretch tight. Don't have to worry about warping car and still looks pretty good IMO. I might try to run a hair dryer over it in the future?

Yep.
 
LightninBoy said:
Bullet said:
I use sticky monokote flat sheets, but don't worry about heating/ironing, just stretch tight. Don't have to worry about warping car and still looks pretty good IMO. I might try to run a hair dryer over it in the future?

Yep.

If the top and bottom of the body are nice and flat, what you do works good.

However, if your body has openings, the iron really does a superior job. My open body cars are flat as a pancake this way (using the EconoKote strips) and stretched as tight as a drum. Those irons only cost close to $10.

From a weight standpoint, the MonoKote rolls is best, but my success rate on wrinkle free results is at best 50/50. That has become a pain in the (derrière).

However, JBD's way is great. Possibly a speck heavier, but probably not enough to count for much.
But remember that Kinser's use of Sharpies is solely to reduce the weight of either paint or one of the ***Kotes from the front end of the car's body.
 
OPARENNEN said:
But remember that Kinser's use of Sharpies is solely to reduce the weight of either paint or one of the ***Kotes from the front end of the car's body.

I wouldn't say it's the sole purpose but it is the main purpose. Secondary to it is the love hate relationship I have with paint, I love the way it looks but hate the labor and time intensity of it.
 
Kinser Racing said:
OPARENNEN said:
But remember that Kinser's use of Sharpies is solely to reduce the weight of either paint or one of the ***Kotes from the front end of the car's body.

I wouldn't say it's the sole purpose but it is the main purpose. Secondary to it is the love hate relationship I have with paint, I love the way it looks but hate the labor and time intensity of it.

Pretty much a "ditto" on my use of the EconoKote strips. Fast application, good looking, and no paint smell, almost no additional time, plus lighter.
 
Thanks OPA and everyone else!!! I had already put in an order for Coverlite, we'll see how that goes. EconoKote will be my next purchase after that and I'll try and provide an update.

I hate to admit it but I used a sharpie on my fenders on one of my last cars!! Man that was easy!!

FYI: I just weighed one of my car covers (made from those Box Labels) and it weighs 1.4 grams, I'll have to look up what a paint job weighs!
 
Kinser Racing said:
That's an awesome set! /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif
Hi Chris,
Whoever glossed you could have referenced Sharpies.
They kinda went outta their way for that title.
I guess they knew you could take a joke as well as the next guy.
With that many speed badges they could have done worse, and nobody would give it a second look.lol
 
With so many colors there are endless possibilities of color combinations . Bullet try not to get overwhelmed /images/boards/smilies/smile.gif