NEW Process in the making...

[GravityX]

Do you think this has any use in the realm of pinewood derby? It is a rather interesting product and appears to work well for what it does, repel everything. My thinking is, does it have a use in the axle/wheel bore area? After reading a dissertation in another post on lubrication, I remembered this product. Take a moment and view the video below.

What do you guys think? Thoughts and ideas appreciated.

[video]http://youtu.be/IPM8OR6W6WE[/video]

 

[bracketracer]

HAHA! That's funny! I was just searching online for oleophobic coatings earlier today and came across their site. The video from the TED was impressive, too. It would be expensive to try from what I read. There's a cheaper kit on Amazon to repair touchscreens on iphones.....

 

[Resophonic Racing]

Watch the slip and slide application. It may give you an answer.

 

[Chief]

this product it a 2 part system and it is about a hundred dollars (50 bucks each) for a quart of both part A and part B.

 

[Guest]

OK, that is to cool. And I will try anything once.
$53.00 for bottom coat and
$96.00 for top coat
$10.00 for shipping:
Sounds like you need the special application equipment to make it safe

$73.00 for proper gloves and respiratory mask

So I'm game/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif However what about this warning (Ultra Ever Dry is FOR INDUSTRIAL USE ONLY - Not permitted for personal use)
Do I need to provide proof I'm a company that can use this?

 

[kickaxe]

This type of product could replace the silicone/teflon part of the process in the future. However, as Sondo just mentioned, finding it available to the public is hard to do. Unfortunately, anything that repels water this well could really harm living tissues. Neverwet was trying to get an aerosol spray product similar to this to the public, but it keeps getting delayed....... However, it may be possible to send in wheels or axles to a company to get them coated, or to order it if one has a legitimate company/license.

Edit.
It appears that the product in the video can be purchased through Amazon. Not sure if the disclaimer would prevent sales.....

 

[Guest]

OK, I sent these guys an email to tonight. I'm sure I won't hear back till Mon about my inquiry. It just so happens I have a friend who has a LLC as a side business in Real-Estate construction so I'm going to find out the license requirements if any to get this stuff.

I figure I better put my money where my mouth is and start doing some discovery, before I get my butt kick some more/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif

 

[Guest]

Another note: I just read in their flyer. It only has a shelf life of 1 year. So that sucks. And if there is hard abrasive action to the top coat it can reduce the effectiveness.

 

[Chief]

It took them to email me back about a week and a half as they are overwhelmed with inquiries. They gave me a distributor that was fairly close that I could buy from. I have chosen not to purchase this for multiple reasons...1 was the cost and 2 was the shelf life, but also as I did more research, regular car wax has a similar sheeting action and it has carnuba in it and that is a no no, also all of the water repellents that I have tried are all somewhat sticky???
Thats all I got...

 

[kickaxe]

The next one on my radar was vellox lc-410 used to coat satellite dishes at http://www.angelfire.com/vt2/vellox/order.html

........but NOT

"The hydrophobic nature of the Vellox LC-410 coating is dependant on the bonding of tiny particles to the surface of the reflector. Therefore, surfaces that have been treated with Vellox LC-410 must be handled carefully to avoid premature degradation. Rubbing, scratching and excessive handling must be avoided. " ........which seems to eliminate using it for rolling/sliding friction where any contaminant can scratch it up.

 

[DerbyDad4Hire]

Is somebody hiding in my shop???

 

[5KidsRacing]

Is somebody hiding in my shop???

Ahhhh... that brings back the good old days/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif Better install some security cameras.

 

[GravityX]

Not hiding, just being very observant and paying attention to all that is seen and read. Muhahaha... /images/boards/smilies/sneaky.gif

Is somebody hiding in my shop???

I would be far from an expert at applying the Ultra Ever Dry, in my more simple way of doing things why could I just not drip the item into the product? This way one would not have to purchase any further equipment other than some rubber gloves. If the product is not sprayed, therefore not atomized, you would drastically reduce inhalation other than the vapors given off. In the video they sprayed it outdoors, make use of the outdoor picnic table to reduce the vapor concentration. Just my 2¢ worth, therefore proceed at your own risk.

 

[kickaxe]

Have you tried the Vellox DD4H? I have been doing mental research only, so no literal testing. I would rather save up to send in a car than spend $ testing too many new things....at least for now. The low cost of the Vellox did have me tempted however, until I read the delicate nature part. From what my brain can sort out, it seems like many of the superhydrophobics would be better if and only if the hydronamic layer stays in place. They are not as slippery as teflon of silicone so any break in the boundary = should more friction for each break/gap.

 

[GravityX]

This thread has opened up my eyes for a potentially easy and inexpensive solution to that thing kickaxe was talking about somewhere. I pays to think out loud. If this works... simply... wow! June will bring the results. Man I need to get a test track!

 

[Chief]

My guess would be that it would need to be sprayed in some applications due to Xcessive mil thinckness?

Not hiding, just being very observant and paying attention to all that is seen and read. Muhahaha... /images/boards/smilies/sneaky.gif

Is somebody hiding in my shop???

I would be far from an expert at applying the Ultra Ever Dry, in my more simple way of doing things why could I just not drip the item into the product? This way one would not have to purchase any further equipment other than some rubber gloves. If the product is not sprayed, therefore not atomized, you would drastically reduce inhalation other than the vapors given off. In the video they sprayed it outdoors, make use of the outdoor picnic table to reduce the vapor concentration. Just my 2¢ worth, therefore proceed at your own risk.

 

[pony express]

The reviews on Amazon for the product ultra ever dry were pretty bad.