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I need some help.........coming up will be my second time at this Pinewood derby racing. The things I have already done to the cars are only 3 wheels touching the ground, weight as far back as possible, sanded and polished my axles, and tilted my wheels so that it would run on the least amount of wheel as possible.That's all that I know to do. If anyone could give me a little direction and tell me what else would help, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
do you happen to know what time it runs? if we had a base time, we could help you know where you are at and how to get faster. it sounds like you are in the right place so far.
did you drill your axle holes at an angle or bend the axles?
 
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Jcagle1 said:
I need some help.........coming up will be my second time at this Pinewood derby racing. The things I have already done to the cars are only 3 wheels touching the ground, weight as far back as possible, sanded and polished my axles, and tilted my wheels so that it would run on the least amount of wheel as possible.That's all that I know to do. If anyone could give me a little direction and tell me what else would help, it would be greatly appreciated.

You can get the weight too far back. Put 1.6 to 1.8oz behind rear axle and rest right in front of it. You can use the slots and still cant your rear wheels without bending the axles. Never bend the rear axles. You do want to bend the front axle about 4 to 5 degrees. Align it in a positive cant (opposite from rear wheels) and slightly rotate it until the car steers towards your raised will at a rate of 3" over 4'.

The best way to align the car is get a pre drilled block or use the block to drill your own. The next steps you will take are to learn how to prep wheels and axles. After alignment this is where the next major gains in speed will be.
 
Jcagle1 said:
... sanded and polished my axles...

There are a lot of variations of sanding and polishing. The DD4H supplies took us to a new level. Also look at the wheel bore polishing supplies, an important step
 
How effective is wheel bore polishing is it a must? If so what's the nbest thing to use. I've read toothpaste is good but have no idea
 
If you want to run with the big dogs you must polish the wheel bores. Most of the pro racers are using the kits sold by dd4h I believe but if you don't want to go that route you can get novus 2 at most motorcycle shops and it works really well for polishing wheel bores.
 
Jcagle1 said:
How effective is wheel bore polishing is it a must? If so what's the nbest thing to use. I've read toothpaste is good but have no idea

This year using the DD4H wheel and axle prep our car was #1 in Den and Pack races by about two car lenghts in every race. There are other options but you have the best that can be had at - http://www.derbydad4hire.com
 
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Jcagle1 said:
How effective is wheel bore polishing is it a must? If so what's the nbest thing to use. I've read toothpaste is good but have no idea

Early on, I spent lots of time on axle polishing, and none on bore polishing. Once I got DD4H's DVD, the big missing item (bore polishing) made a big difference.

If you have time, get DD4H's kit of #1 and #2. If time is short, go get the premier 3M kit of Scratch Remover and Synthetic wax. However, even then, you need to know the process, which is the same as in John's DVD. In either case, finish of the bore prep with Brasso on leather straps.
 
How do you get leather straps into the bore? Do you just cut them really small?
As far as I know a leather strip can be used to apply the final polish steps to the axle. I don't think there is a wheel bore application using leather for the wheels.