Street Rod - Is it time to say goodbye

Nov 23, 2011
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All of you builders of Street Stock - You are missing the best bet to make a good showing at the races.
Street Rod uses most of the same preperation and parts rules as Street Stock, but nobody is taking advantage of it.
1. There are currently very few entrants, and if that doesn't change, GOOD BYE to the Street Rod class.
2. A Street Rod is as easy to build as Street Stock, and in fact not any where near the time requirements to be competitive.
3. The possibility of winning a trophy or placng high are 100 x easier.
4. You will learn all the same secrets of winning/placing as exist in SS.

Below is an updated formula that I posted earlier (updates in blue):

OPARENNEN POST FROM MONTHS AGO:

You builders should seriously consider building a Street Rod. It takes less time and cost to build a good Street Rod, than to build a good Street Stock. AND, you will instantly be more competitive.

Here is how to do it.

1.Go to http://www.toytechracing.com/dragcars.htm and buy a body.There are hundreds available, and most of them only cost $5.00. My two cars from the national June and August races are TR107 and TR090. There are also TR5107 and TR5090 bodies of the same shape. The first two are .010 in thickness, and the second two are .015 -- .010 is slightly lighter in weight.

2.The bodies are all clear Lexon. Painting is easy, just spray the inside of the body, and the car is instantly shiny on the outside.

3.Buy or make a normal Pinewood Platform 3/8” thick.
Also buy a 24 inch 3/8 x 3/8 balsa stick.

a. Determine where the axle holes should be drilled. My axles are 5.5 and 6.0 inches apart, but you could also go with a longer span. You need to move the front wheels forward so the car nose does not touch the track at the transition point, plus the car will be more stable. Drill the front axle holes striaght, with the NDW slightly higher.

b.The rear axle holes should be canted and placed to the rear of the car as far as is possible.

c.Rout a pocket out between the front and rear axles (for putting weight in the rear, and to reduce weight at the front end). I like the pocket on top of the platform, but it can be either top or bottom. If top, the bottom will be nice and smooth. In both of my cars, I drilled the weight pockets all the way through the body, then glued a 1/64th piecd of balsa on the bottom of the car (also covering the 3/8 in balsa extensions all the way around the car (see below), and then I applied a piece of Monokote on the bottom to make it super smooth.

4.Glue pieces of Balsa on all four sides of the main block.

a. A piece at the back, just large enough to attach the lexon body.

b. Two pieces between the wheels on each side.

c. Three pieces at the front, again long enough to attach the body.

d. Depending on how forward the front wheels are, you might need 2 small 3/8" pieces forward of the front wheels on each side. The Lexon bodies have no wheel wells, so you can cut them where ever you want, but move the wheels forward just enough to be sure the car's nose won't touch the track.

5.Cut off the excess flange from the Lexon body, then set the body on the platform, and draw an outline around the shape of the body. That line will be entirely on the 3/8"balsa rails.

6.Cut or sand off all the excess balsa so that the Lexon body slips tightly over the platform.

6a. Weigh everything (including axles, wheels AND the Monokote botom cover). Then bring the weight up by placing tungston as far to the rear as possible (with such a long car, just put the weight to the rear and forget the COM).

6b. On my cars, I also removed a lot of the Lexon from the rear of the car's body, so it didn't sit so high.

7.Insert the platform into the body, and glue or bolt the two together.

a.You can push the rear of the platform higher into the body to reduce the overall height of the car (i.e. lower the overall profile). Then cut of the excess Lexon per 6b.

8.The Lexon bodies do not have pre-cut wheel wells, so you can use a dremmel with a sander bit to cut out the wheel well wherever you want it. I even had to remove a bit of the Lexon from the body top, just on top of the wheels.

9.Prep and install the wheels and axles exactly as with a Street Stock car.

10.Set the “drift” (something over 10 inches over 8 feet), but be sure the nose doesn’t drag at the transition point of the track. My drift was 12.5 inches.

11. My red car uses Cheetah wheels, but my yellow uses DD4H's lessor cost wheels
 
You are right on the money Opa! This is one of classes where you can have a lot of fun just building the thing. I say the more cars the better in any class. After that butt whoopin that you gave us in Street Rod class at the Nationals, I went back to the ol' drawing board but didn't have anything ready in time. Let's all see if we can raise the car numbers in this exciting class.
 
Alright ..Alright ..you've beat me into submission ..OPA the kit you gave me...I'll put it together for the next race.. One more entrant coming up.
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I'm still really, really, green to all this but what the heck I'll try anything once. From your explanation I think I can do that by the next race. Considering I can't even break sub3 in the street stock, can't hurt to try something. Thank you very much for the info/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif
 
DITTO ON THE RESPONSES BY STONECOLD & SOGONE !! I LOVE THIS CLASS, ALBEIT I'M NOT NEARLY AS FAST AS OPA.. OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT I DID PULL DOWN A 4TH PLACE THIS PAST WEEKEND(ONLY 4 ENTRIES, I KNOW) BUT I GET A KICK OUTTA WATCHING THESE CARS RACE, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE REAL DRAG RACING..NOT KNOCKING ANY OF THE OTHER CLASSES, I LOVE WATCHING THOSE AS WELL. I JUST HATE TO SEE A GOOD CLASS DISAPPEAR FOR LACK OF INTEREST. OPA, WHO HAS BEEN BEATING EVERYONE PRETTY HANDILY HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO MAKE A LIST OF THE HOW TO BUILD A FAST CAR..SO NOONE HAS AN EXCUSE FOR NOT HAVING A MAP TO BUILD ONE OF THESE CARS, SO THANK YOU TO OPA
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FOR THE GREAT INFO!!! I DEFINATELY WILL BE USING IT!! TAKE CARE MY FRIENDS, AND LETS NOT ONLY BE GETTING OUR STREET ROD NUMBERS UP, LET'S SHOW OUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION TO DD4H AND GET THE #'S IN EVERY CLASS UP!!
 
in days of old.... we had a the streed rod class which everyone had to build a car of specific nature.. IE corvette, mustang, etc. I vote we go back to that. It was so cool to see heads up racing of like vehicles that actually looked like cars. Just my 2 cents.
 
I'm with Mr. Chips. I loved getting the model kits and building the car of the month and seeing what everyone else built. The problem there, however, was that people were modifying the cars so much that they became unrecognizable (i.e. cuting off not only the top, but the windshield as well, then taping it up to cover the holes). That kinda ruined it.
 
I have to agree somewhat with Chips on this one. I don't believe I just said that!!!
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But in my opinion we should stick with a car that you would see on the street not the strip, but would be able to stick with the same car all year. Just my $.02.
 
Interesting comnts from ET, Chips ans ZB, although I hope their opinion does not prevail.
I have created 4 cars the old way and four the new format.
For me, the new format using Funny Car molded bodies is:
Easier; Cheaper, Quicker to build, and much more fun, as well as a break from the old same as, same as.
However, the old format did present more challanges:
Difficult wheel base challanges
Difficult body attachment
More difficult painting
Terribly difficult to tune.
Plus much more *******.
What I learned from building and tuning the current SR format helped me immeasurably in advancing my SS building skills.

I hope the new format continues, but I guess that is out of my hands.
But if it continues, and more builders try their hand, I think it will become very popular, and as difficult to win, place or show as the current SS class
 
Personally, I think the Street Rod class is as much about the show as it is the go. The introduction of the RC/Slot car molded bodies -- especially the long wheelbase dragsters, changed the class to being all about the go.

I did just order a Porsche Carrera model ('76 Porsche Carrera RS) because I really want to make and run a Street Rod, and that particular model is just a couple hundreths shy of being completely legal for body size in scouts and AWANA races (the wheelbase, however, is a paltry 3.5").

I side w/ Mr. Chips. This class should be cars made from 1:24 or 1:25 model kits. Cars that really look like cars. Cars that make our eyes light up like little kids'...
 
I bought several of the platic cars available at Hobby Shops. Almost all of them have a restricted wheel base, they are normally too heavy at the front, and almost all of them are difficult to mount a decent Pinewood platform on.
I have several really neat looking cars, but all of them were too slow on my test track. So they just sit on my display shelf. But visiting boy scouts think they are the neatest thing on the shelf.

However when buying a body from Toytech Racing, you also have to be carefull because most of them are too wide. However most of their Funny Car bodies work, and they are extreamly light and easy to mount on a pinewood platform. Also, most important, they do not have pre-cut wheel wells. You can put all of the wheels just where you want them. My best car IROCZ has a 6.5 inch wheel base, and the rear wheels are completely to the rear, the rear edges of the wheels equal to the rear body edge. Another reason for the long wheel base is you need to be sure the nose (or nose extension} does not touch the track at the transition point.

PM me if you have questions. I will give you the straight dope, because I want the class to continue.

Crash Enburn said:
Personally, I think the Street Rod class is as much about the show as it is the go. The introduction of the RC/Slot car molded bodies -- especially the long wheelbase dragsters, changed the class to being all about the go.

I did just order a Porsche Carrera model ('76 Porsche Carrera RS) because I really want to make and run a Street Rod, and that particular model is just a couple hundreths shy of being completely legal for body size in scouts and AWANA races (the wheelbase, however, is a paltry 3.5").

I side w/ Mr. Chips. This class should be cars made from 1:24 or 1:25 model kits. Cars that really look like cars. Cars that make our eyes light up like little kids'...
 
I really don't have an issue with using either style, I'm just glad to finally see some conversation and debating again!! Opa makes some great points when saying the old way is much hadrer than the new lexan style body. But in defense of the "OLD" way, I think these cars are so much different than any of the 4 classes we run it presents a more helpful..though tougher, challenge to build than the newer way. If you look close enough for cars that snap together, many of the newer ones have 4 places, 2 in front and 2 in the rear of the body where screws are used to attach the bottom of the car to the body. meaning the body has 4 legs that hang down under the body, and it is very easy to attach the pwd part of the build to the body.
However, unless we get more than 5 or 6 of us doing this, we are wasting ours and John's time just so a couple of us can have it our way. I would hate to see the class disappear completely, but we have to think realistically...is this still a viable class using either type of body?? Will more builders commit to building these cars?? Or should we look at having another class that uses exisiting rules from one of the classes and have a race that is shorter? Moving the timer to around the 24ft mark and have a shorter run..just a thought. Take care all !!

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I agree with many of the points made, they are all valid points. while it was before my time i really like the idea of a different theme every race, but while it looks good on paper, not many of us can afford to build new cars for every race. but if the same running gear was used it would be possible. it would add the excitement of an unknown factor, the different and ever changing body styles would always be running different speeds.it would open things up for the possability of a new winner every race. but it would take a good 7-8 dedicated racers to make a class like that work.
the choices would not be a problem, ford, chevy, dodge, convertibles, 1920's, 30's......sure would be fun just to watch. while i am tapped out for this season, i would do something like that next year.