The Hub Rub remedy

[CH3NO2]

We currently use Super Glue, but I hear some use nail polish instead.
Is one better than the other and if so what are you using and the process?

Currently after we drill and check alignment, we put a junk nail in the holes and brush the Super Glue on, wait a second or two than pull the nails out and let dry over night than sand the applied areas smooth the next morning. I worry that the Graphite does not have anything to cling to with this process.

 

[Vitamin K]

If I'm running graphite, I will just sand the wood smooth and then burnish several layers of graphite into the wood with my finger.

 

[DerbyDad4Hire]

We currently use Super Glue, but I hear some use nail polish instead.
Is one better than the other and if so what are you using and the process?

Currently after we drill and check alignment, we put a junk nail in the holes and brush the Super Glue on, wait a second or two than pull the nails out and let dry over night than sand the applied areas smooth the next morning. I worry that the Graphite does not have anything to cling to with this process.

Have you tired dumping a little graphite into the super glue or nail polish?

 

[CH3NO2]

@DerbyDad4Hire - while it is still liquid or after it dries?

 

[DerbyDad4Hire]

@DerbyDad4Hire - while it is still liquid or after it dries?

Liquid

 

[CH3NO2]

I feel like I should be paying you $ for each answer

 

[GravityX]

In the past, the nail polish to use was the Sally Hansen Teflon Tuff. Unfortunately, it's no longer available.

 

[CH3NO2]

In the past, the nail polish to use was the Sally Hansen Teflon Tuff. Unfortunately, it's no longer available.

Amazon has some listed right now, is it the
Sally Hansen Teflon Tuff Nail Color
or SALLY HANSEN TEFLON TUFF NAIL PROTECTOR
or Sally Hansen Triple Strong Strength Treatment 2620 Clear?

 

[Vitamin K]

Is there really any benefit to using nail polish or superglue when you're running graphite? I mean, if you rub a good amount of graphite into sanded wood until you get a silvery finish, it feels pretty darn slick to the touch. My understanding is that the coating (teflon, nail polish, ca glue, etc) is to prevent the oil (if , indeed, you're running oil) from causing the wood grains to rise, which would cause for a rougher surface.

 

[GravityX]

The clear Teflon Tuff was the stuff everyone was after. As mentioned, it is no longer available, unless what you are seeing is old stock.

 

[CH3NO2]

Is there really any benefit to using nail polish or superglue when you're running graphite? I mean, if you rub a good amount of graphite into sanded wood until you get a silvery finish, it feels pretty darn slick to the touch. My understanding is that the coating (teflon, nail polish, ca glue, etc) is to prevent the oil (if , indeed, you're running oil) from causing the wood grains to rise, which would cause for a rougher surface.

We run Graphite only on both cars because of Scout rules, and we had in the past rubbed the graphite into the wood until it is slick and silvery finish, but after you run a couple of heats you can see were the hub rubbed and indented the wood. I was wanting to harden the spot up as well as making it slicker. Maybe my gap is too tight on the DFW or my OCD is full on right now.

 

[CH3NO2]

The clear Teflon Tuff was the stuff everyone was after. As mentioned, it is no longer available, unless what you are seeing is old stock.

Yes, they have three bottles left of old stock available on Amazon.
Will it work with graphite cars as well?

Thanks.

 

[Vitamin K]

We run Graphite only on both cars because of Scout rules, and we had in the past rubbed the graphite into the wood until it is slick and silvery finish, but after you run a couple of heats you can see were the hub rubbed and indented the wood. I was wanting to harden the spot up as well as making it slicker. Maybe my gap is too tight on the DFW or my OCD is full on right now.

OTOH, would a hardened ring of compressed wood make for a bad running surface?

 

[GravityX]

Will it work with graphite cars as well?

Yes

 

[davet]

We used to install an old wheel on an axle and put some graphite around the hole. We would push the wheel against the block with some pressure and twist it back and forth to compress the wood and make the graphite shiny. Kept adding graphite and repeating until we couldn't even make a fingernail mark in the wood because it was so hard.

 

[Ballistic Racing]

I used the Sally Hansen on both my Box Stock cars in league racing last year... it works.

 

[CH3NO2]

Looks like I just purchased the last two bottles on Amazon last night, some one snagged the other one already.
I wonder if it was a racer on here or a nail salon
If someone else needs one, PM me and I will send it to you for what I paid for it once I receive it from Amazon.
It's the least I can do for the forum in return.

 

[LightninBoy]

Super glue works just as well (better IMO) than the nail polish. We have multiple wins in the ultra competitive NSC Council Race to prove it (this was before washers/slide glides were explicitly permitted). There's no reason to hunt down Teflon Tuff when CA glue is readily available.

The key is to create a hard and smooth surface, which super glue does well.

 

[down4derby]

Super glue works just as well (better IMO) than the nail polish. We have multiple wins in the ultra competitive NSC Council Race to prove it (this was before washers/slide glides were explicitly permitted). There's no reason to hunt down Teflon Tuff when CA glue is readily available.

The key is to create a hard and smooth surface, which super glue does well.

I agree that super glue is a great option. Just polish it like you would polish plastic and wax it too. We did this on all our scout cars in the past and I used it in the box stock class as well. The acronym KICASS applies here.

 

[GravityX]

Ahhh... Keep It CA Simple Silly, good one!