Who...ahem...wax the bores?

[Tekcor1]

Does anyone have a link or a good description of how to properly wax the bores?

 

[Kinser Racing]

Here's what you're looking for.

http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/Zero-Friction-Wheel-Bore-Polishing-Kit-POL-KW.htm

You're alright but please remember this is a kid friendly forum. Thanks!!!

 

[HMH Racing]

I would also say that along with the wheel polishing kit Kinser suggested, you should order the "unlocking oil secrets" dvd ( http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/2010-Nationals-Workshop-on-DVD-Unlock-The-OIL-SECRETS-v-2010N.htm /images/boards/smilies/wink.gif

This DVD will answer a lot of questions on wheel and axle prep. Even if you use graphite this DVD is a must. The one difference between oil and graphite prep is that when preparing wheels for graphite do not use jig or the blue can DuPont lube. Use pledge instead. JUST BUY THE DVD you will not be sorry.

 

[Tekcor1]

Here's what you're looking for.

http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/Zero-Friction-Wheel-Bore-Polishing-Kit-POL-KW.htm

You're alright but please remember this is a kid friendly forum. Thanks!!!

Thanks for the link, and the reminder. I don't usually frequent forums that have kids on them, and just didn't think about it when I made my post. I have edited it to be more kid appropriate.

So just to be clear, the wheel bore polishing kit is considered waxing the bores? Or is there an additional step after that to apply the wax? We are required to use dry lube on our cars, so would I polish the bores but not use wax? It seems that graphite and wax would not work well together. Here's our rules regarding lube for our derby:

"Only dry lubricants such as graphite or powdered teflon "white lube" will be allowed for lubricating the wheels. Lubrication shall be applied only on or before registration day. No lubrication after registration is closed. "

 

[Vitamin K]

My reading of the products in the link is that these are both plastic polishes, meant to give you a smooth bore, but not to "wax" it or anything like that. Polishing is perfectly legal.

It states as much, that the polishing kit is compatible with either oil or graphite.

Here's what you're looking for.

http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/Zero-Friction-Wheel-Bore-Polishing-Kit-POL-KW.htm

You're alright but please remember this is a kid friendly forum. Thanks!!!

Thanks for the link, and the reminder. I don't usually frequent forums that have kids on them, and just didn't think about it when I made my post. I have edited it to be more kid appropriate.

So just to be clear, the wheel bore polishing kit is considered waxing the bores? Or is there an additional step after that to apply the wax? We are required to use dry lube on our cars, so would I polish the bores but not use wax? It seems that graphite and wax would not work well together. Here's our rules regarding lube for our derby:

"Only dry lubricants such as graphite or powdered teflon "white lube" will be allowed for lubricating the wheels. Lubrication shall be applied only on or before registration day. No lubrication after registration is closed. "

 

[Kinser Racing]

The kit I linked has the wax (Red Rocket) included. You'll be perfectly legal to use it and I would. /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif

 

[bracketracer]

Red Rocket wax and graphite won our pack's race last January. The wax is dry so it should be legal for you also.

 

[Vitamin K]

That's interesting. So Red Rocket is actually a wax? It bills itself as a polish.

http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/Red-Rocket-Xtreme-Wheel-Bore-Polish-POL-RR.htm

The kit I linked has the wax (Red Rocket) included. You'll be perfectly legal to use it and I would. /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif

 

[Kinser Racing]

That's interesting. So Red Rocket is actually a wax? It bills itself as a polish.

http://www.shop.derbydad4hire.com/Red-Rocket-Xtreme-Wheel-Bore-Polish-POL-RR.htm

The kit I linked has the wax (Red Rocket) included. You'll be perfectly legal to use it and I would. /images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif

I don't know what Red Rocket is, it's something special John has developed.

 

[Tekcor1]

Red Rocket wax and graphite won our pack's race last January. The wax is dry so it should be legal for you also.

Thank you. Was it you who used it to win the pack?

 

[bracketracer]

Red Rocket wax and graphite won our pack's race last January. The wax is dry so it should be legal for you also.

Thank you. Was it you who used it to win the pack?

My oldest son won the pack race, my youngest son tied for first in the family/sibling race. He lost on the tiebreaker though. They score by average time, the tiebreaker is the cumulative time. He missed first by .003 on the cumulative for four runs.

 

[ngyoung]

Many waxes are described as polish. They make the surface smoother by filling in voids vs knocking down bumps. Step one in the kit smoothes out scratches and step 2 fills what is left as well as coat the surface with a wax like layer. A lot of people here call it a wax but not sure if it is technically wax. Some auto polishes like Liquid Glass are waxless and use a clear carbon or teflon coating that when cured is smooth and hard. I am pretty sure red rocket is something similar but I can't confirm.

For graphite racing it can be beneficial having that layer to hold graphite when burnishing. Once the graphite does run out after several runs it can also give you a slight edge over just a raw or polished bore.

In this post 5kids describes the whole process pretty well. http://www.pinewoodderbyonline.com/post/the-waxs-role-6790243?highlight=bore+wax&pid=1282334683

 

[ngyoung]

I don't really know the science behind it all...

I like the idea of having a nice smooth slick bore so I use a q-tip stem and a bore polish. I use the largest q-tip stem that can run through the bore while turning it slowly with an electric drill that doesn't break off in the bore... and I do break some off and sometimes I can't get the SOB's back out and have to scrap the wheel... I do this because that q-tip stem applies the pressure to polish the bore and the more pressure the better. I don't think I can enlarge a bore with a "too large" q-tip stem....

Next I like the idea of a Teflon coated surface on top of that highly polished bore, so I apply Red Rocket or Legend or similar.... I buff it out... One thin coat and remove all excess wax with a fluffy pipe cleaner, tooth pick, piece of cotton cloth or whatever it takes to get the job done.

Next I am running graphite so I want a thin film of graphite in the bore to extend my number of runs.... I know that for me dropping graphite in the bore and tenderly moving it around with a pipe cleaner does nothing except get graphite all over the place.... and it doesn't stick in the bore this way.... would I use a special pointed cotton swab to burnish? well, no, not me... The thought of using a drill and spinning that thing in my highly polished, newly waxed bore seems like a disaster waiting to happen... so I use force with a polished pin and I smash the graphite into the bore surface as hard as I can without damaging the wheel or bore. Would a q-tip stem work to burnish graphite? Don't know, never tried it... I don't think I can get enough graphite in the bore during this process to burnish... so I stick to what works for me...