Need more speed
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Thanks again. My private messages are now on.
I can make a decent joint or two in some wood parts. I can't play worth a darn, but I can build a pretty sweet guitar.
I am off for the night. Shoot me a PM Joe, and we can chat.
I can make a decent joint or two in some wood parts. I can't play worth a darn, but I can build a pretty sweet guitar.
I am off for the night. Shoot me a PM Joe, and we can chat.
Ok. I have the car running straight as an arrow. Which, if I understand, is the correct tuning for the Super Track. I covered the hole in the bottom as well. My final question question is how do I do the final prep with graphite? I don't have a track to test on, so if anyone wants to come to NY with theirs, I'll buy you a beer. So about the graphite prep?
I think shooting for straight is one of the preferred ways....fact is trying to run using the outside lane as a guide requires upfront adjustment to the body of the car and adjustments on canting that based on the fact that your car is pretty much finished bodywork wise that I doubt there would be a good chance of making those type of adjustments without damaging the body of the car....
Straight will still be fast! As far as the graphite prep in summary (there are a bunch of posts which can into more specifics), polish axels as best you can and then final polish with pledge and let dry.
Polish wheel bores (per John's kit) and then after final polish (red rocket preferably), burnish in graphite into the bore using fuzzy pipe cleaner or other applicators (as long as it wont scratch the bore). Mate axel and wheel and add in more graphite and spin the wheel for a bit.
Rub graphite on inner hub surface. I guess if you were worried about the rubbing of the outside surface of the wheel on the outer lanes, you could rub some graphite on the outside rim of the wheels but fact is the lettering is also there so not sure how much help it would be.
Make sure weighting is fine and pack in whatever carrier you have.
On race day shoot one more round of graphite into the wheels as best you can since they are already on the car now, give it a few spins by hand and then turn in.
If I missed something, someone else will point it out im sure.
WK
Straight will still be fast! As far as the graphite prep in summary (there are a bunch of posts which can into more specifics), polish axels as best you can and then final polish with pledge and let dry.
Polish wheel bores (per John's kit) and then after final polish (red rocket preferably), burnish in graphite into the bore using fuzzy pipe cleaner or other applicators (as long as it wont scratch the bore). Mate axel and wheel and add in more graphite and spin the wheel for a bit.
Rub graphite on inner hub surface. I guess if you were worried about the rubbing of the outside surface of the wheel on the outer lanes, you could rub some graphite on the outside rim of the wheels but fact is the lettering is also there so not sure how much help it would be.
Make sure weighting is fine and pack in whatever carrier you have.
On race day shoot one more round of graphite into the wheels as best you can since they are already on the car now, give it a few spins by hand and then turn in.
If I missed something, someone else will point it out im sure.
WK
First off, welcome to the site. Looks like you've got a handle on what you need to know for now. Great looking car. If anyone can make your car faster with tips and advise it's the guys on this site. I've been here a year and have learned more than I ever knew was possible with PWD. The forums pick up this time of year with new dads trying to find out more and trying to make their cars faster. You're lucky you found it so early. Search through the threads started as most of the questions you have have already been asked.
We had the district races today and we didn't win. I don't even know if the car was faster because they didn't publish the times and I only remember one. They also ran the track shorter so I can't compare to the times from the longer track. We ran a 2.553 in the race I saw the time for. It was a fun day nevertheless. Thanks for the help everyone gave me. Next year we will do better as a result.
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Hey Tony,
As long as you had fun with your boy then it was a win.
Next year you can push it.
Congrats!
As long as you had fun with your boy then it was a win.
Next year you can push it.
Congrats!
If you look at my cars and their times from pre knowledge of this site to now it's crazy. Last year we were lucky by winning the pack with an average speed of 207 mpg on a 35' Best Track. This year we went 2.2 sec average @ 215 mph. I'm no where near a master woodworker, but from what I learned the proof is in the pudding.
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We definitely had fun and we were competitive but there was one problem. When I checked my car in, it was rolling straight. When I got it back, it was going in a circle. The front wheels were pulled out with big gaps between the body and wheel and they was a lot of toe in. Pretty sure it was dropped between check in and race time. Oh well. There's always next year.
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We had that happen once, it was either the stop section or the bitter scout leader that wanted to make us think she ran our car over. It does happen. Stick around and you'll be set for next year.
So the full story goes like this:
I was online to check in behind another dad from my son's pack. He had won first place in our group, the tigers. The guy checking people in was giving everyone a hard time about having 4 wheels on the floor. When he threatened to DQ my friend, I told the guy I was a lawyer (I'm not) and said it does not state in the rules that four wheels must tough. When he looked at me I could tell he was pissed, so I added that I specialized in wrestling contract law and if he wanted to wrestle me, or get an autograph from any wrestlers, I would be happy to oblige either request. Everyone else in the immediate area could tell I was joking and we all laughed. Except Mr. GrumpyPants check in guy who was not laughing at all and looked even more angry. He called over two other senior scout masters, both of whom I know, and told them what I said, and that my friend's car should be DQed for not having 4 on the floor. The head of the counsel said it was perfectly fine and asked what the problem was. Well then I checked in my car, got a very thorough inspection, passed, and then I left to get my son. There were two hours between check in and race time, I was hung over, and I was hungry. Upon my return, the races were just about to start, so I didn't head to the impound table to look at my car. I trusted that a group of adults would not mess with a 6 year old's car. Nobody told me the car had been dropped, so I can only assume based on what the wheels were doing, that it was dropped or intentionally messed with. Next year, I will not leave between check in and race time. Live and learn.
I was online to check in behind another dad from my son's pack. He had won first place in our group, the tigers. The guy checking people in was giving everyone a hard time about having 4 wheels on the floor. When he threatened to DQ my friend, I told the guy I was a lawyer (I'm not) and said it does not state in the rules that four wheels must tough. When he looked at me I could tell he was pissed, so I added that I specialized in wrestling contract law and if he wanted to wrestle me, or get an autograph from any wrestlers, I would be happy to oblige either request. Everyone else in the immediate area could tell I was joking and we all laughed. Except Mr. GrumpyPants check in guy who was not laughing at all and looked even more angry. He called over two other senior scout masters, both of whom I know, and told them what I said, and that my friend's car should be DQed for not having 4 on the floor. The head of the counsel said it was perfectly fine and asked what the problem was. Well then I checked in my car, got a very thorough inspection, passed, and then I left to get my son. There were two hours between check in and race time, I was hung over, and I was hungry. Upon my return, the races were just about to start, so I didn't head to the impound table to look at my car. I trusted that a group of adults would not mess with a 6 year old's car. Nobody told me the car had been dropped, so I can only assume based on what the wheels were doing, that it was dropped or intentionally messed with. Next year, I will not leave between check in and race time. Live and learn.
sad. all over a kids scout race. Some people take it WAY too seriously. I mean I try my best and work with my son in building his car, but I'm not going intentionally wreck or screw with someone else's car. I spent more time worrying about helping others make weight or the changes they needed than worrying about my own car.
I brought 2oz of tungsten putty to pack night and let anyone use it to get closer to 5oz. I offered to help anyone who wanted assistance with the wood working part of the car. It's supposed to be about spending time with your kid, nothing more. If you win, that's great. The way my wheels were angled and spaced from the car, I doubt the damage was unintentional, but who knows?
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+1 OH MAN THAT PISSES ME OFF. Sorry for the language but that guy needs to get a life. 1. It's bad enough to make up rules on the fly (give a guy a little bit of power I guess it totally went to his head) and 2. To take out his pettiness when kids are involved is pathetic.
Best of luck to you next year Tony, I hope for you and your sons sake he's not the check in guy. Maybe you could bring a bite to eat and just sit and stare at him during the two hours before the race./images/boards/smilies/smile.gif Now I'm being petty. Naw I would probably do just that.
I'm bringing a chair and I will sit and watch my kid's car like a hawk.
Also, I wanted to thank laserman. We met up before my race and had a nice chat about PWD and loads of other things. Really nice guy and I'm glad we had a chance to meet. He has some cool tools and cars in his shop.
Also, I wanted to thank laserman. We met up before my race and had a nice chat about PWD and loads of other things. Really nice guy and I'm glad we had a chance to meet. He has some cool tools and cars in his shop.
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Hey Tony,
It was great meeting with you as well.
I have to see some of the burl you have out there in Brooklyn.
You have mad skills and I really hope that you enter a car for league racing.
Either way, next year at this time I have a feeling that your next derby car is gonna be beautiful AND fast as heck!
Stop by anytime.
I am almost always here.
It was great meeting with you as well.
I have to see some of the burl you have out there in Brooklyn.
You have mad skills and I really hope that you enter a car for league racing.
Either way, next year at this time I have a feeling that your next derby car is gonna be beautiful AND fast as heck!
Stop by anytime.
I am almost always here.
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