wheel prep

[bracketracer]

I bought a few cans of Jig just before the Nationals. When I used it my car slowed quite a bit so I cleaned it off and reprepped with my old stuff before I shipped the car. I never thought to try another can to see if it helped. Now I need to check the lot numbers to see if they're all from the same batch I guess.

 

[DEW36]

I've been spraying jig on mirrors and letting it dry. Very interesting inconsistency. Noticed some speed robbing caracteristics.

I never would have thought about doing that. Way to think outside of the box.

 

[Rocket car]

Back a few months ago QT made this quote: "This will not be a forever secret! In time it will be out. "give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he will eat forever!" This has yet to be proven in a league race we'll see how it does the next race and go from there... I will give you a hint. For most builders on here the answer to the question you already have." I like that Yoda touch at the end.
Low and behold... here is his response...

This is interesting. When I said that my cars that I prep for national were junk I was not lieing. If you deduct the .010 for track differential you can see that all my cars were slower than the last month(.004-.015). With the 1 car I won with was on a old prep. Now you ready for the differences in the prep?? The only thing I did different was use a new can of Jig!!!!! I'm starting to wonder if there is some inconsistency in the Jig, it a cretin lot # is faster than others. I just went and got a couple more cans we'll see what happens.

Now, this topic has lead me to believe there may be some speed to be found with some sort of jig-a-loo concoction.

I just have to reflect back at this and the posted information. It may be nothing, but it still makes me think.

So the jig is the same, but a new product is introduced like dd4h said . So new oil or wax. Hmmmm

 

[GravityX]

So, obviously, the Jig is a solution that separates in the can (or does it?) as it sits there. We then have to mix it back into a solution before spraying it onto the axle. Now, I'm just thinking aloud, but would storing the can upside down or on it's side be a beneficial way of storing a can of Jig? My vote: upside down. To possibly prevent an unusable portion to be left in the can or not be used after reaching 1/2 of a can or so, if what is being said is true? What is leaving the can, or staying in the can for that matter, that changes as the Jig is being used up? So many questions....

 

[Rocket car]

I've been spraying jig on mirrors and letting it dry. Very interesting inconsistency. Noticed some speed robbing caracteristics.

I think letting the jig dry for along time improves the over all performance, because if the jig is wetter it mixes with the kryton and makes it thicker thus slowing the car down. I did this experiment today on a mirror.

 

[bracketracer]

I'll play the part of the devil's advocate here. What if storing the can upside down causes the beneficial ingredient to stick to the top of the can, where it doesn't get drawn into the siphon tube inside the can?

Better try one right side up, one upside down, one on it's side, one in the freezer, one in the fridge, one on a sunny window sill, etc.

Or maybe it would be better to find a product with similar ingredients sold in a stable ratio.........

I still think the name "Mr Butterhole" is a hint. Anyone try butter or margarine in the wheel bores? C'mon, I know at least one of you has tried it! Fess up!

 

[g.o.racing]

BKR

L O L thats 2 funny

 

[derby freak]

I've been spraying jig on mirrors and letting it dry. Very interesting inconsistency. Noticed some speed robbing caracteristics.

I think letting the jig dry for along time improves the over all performance, because if the jig is wetter it mixes with the kryton and makes it thicker thus slowing the car down. I did this experiment today on a mirror.

This I think may hold some truth but, the longer your wheels are left naked with jig sprayed on them increases the chance of some trash to settle on the axles. So it would be a good Idea to keep this in mind as you let the axles dry.

 

[Skippy Kicky]

I'm sure many of y'all keep your sprayed axles on a block with holes drilled for them or something similar. Something I did to keep dust or fibers from landing on the axles is putting up a tall rod in the center, and placing it in a large zip lock bag. This keeps your axles nice and clean while the jig dries.

 

[Quicktimederby]

I use the lid off the jig to cover them for the 20min dry time.

I'm sure many of y'all keep your sprayed axles on a block with holes drilled for them or something similar. Something I did to keep dust or fibers from landing on the axles is putting up a tall rod in the center, and placing it in a large zip lock bag. This keeps your axles nice and clean while the jig dries.

 

[Eliminator Racing]

I bought two cans of jig from a local hardware store last week. Tonight I looked at the date on the cans 2007 I wonder if it's any good?

 

[Rocket car]

Zeebs gave me some of his old stuff when i started(thx) and it inc.jig with the same date. After running the same exact car one month with the old jig and then I bought new jig and I lost .004 sec. the next month. Hmmmm I might try try the old stuff again.

 

[Skippy Kicky]

I use the lid off the jig to cover them for the 20min dry time.

I'm sure many of y'all keep your sprayed axles on a block with holes drilled for them or something similar. Something I did to keep dust or fibers from landing on the axles is putting up a tall rod in the center, and placing it in a large zip lock bag. This keeps your axles nice and clean while the jig dries.

The lid idea is brilliant. Way less space taken up on the workbench. Thanks for the good tip.

 

[down4derby]

I've been using my wife's Tupperware for drying axles. One thing I noticed on the jig is the nozzle clogging often causing it to spit when sprayed. Periodically blowing out the nozzle with air helps with this. I think getting a nice even coating is ideal. Under magnification after the coating drys I sometimes notice little dimples in the coating. I'm not sure what causes the dimples, maybe air bubbles or the axle not being clean enough but I don't think it's good. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[ZZ Racing]

I bought two cans of jig from a local hardware store last week. Tonight I looked at the date on the cans 2007 I wonder if it's any good?

I've got probably 40 to 50 cans and they all have 2007 on the bottom but I still see some faster then others when prepping.

 

[bracketracer]

I've been using my wife's Tupperware for drying axles. One thing I noticed on the jig is the nozzle clogging often causing it to spit when sprayed. Periodically blowing out the nozzle with air helps with this. I think getting a nice even coating is ideal. Under magnification after the coating drys I sometimes notice little dimples in the coating. I'm not sure what causes the dimples, maybe air bubbles or the axle not being clean enough but I don't think it's good. Has anyone else noticed this?

Do you think the dimples might be similar to orange peel in spray paint?

 

[down4derby]

The dimples appear to taper into a funnel shape down to the metal. Kind of like when you paint and a pinhole appears where the paint won't stick to the surface. I've always re prepped if I notice them.

 

[bracketracer]

Ah, ok. Fisheye. Does sound like contamination. Ironic that silicone causes fisheyes in paint. What would cause fisheyes in silicone?

 

[GravityX]

An oleophobic surface or was that a hydrophobic surface??? IDK anymore.... lol I have no clue, I'm just tossing out verbiage.

 

[bracketracer]

Maybe it was a butterphobic surface?? lol