The DuPont will still work, it is a good place to star and will help you get the process down until you can find what works best for you and your prep. Make sure you shake it up real good before spraying your axles.
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I was thinking about looking for some jig, but what is it used for? The only thing I can find online is for rubic cubes which I doubt is the same stuff you guys are referring to. I am asking just so I am sure I ask for the right thing.
This is what the product looks like, I have had good luck finding it on the clearance table at Pep Boys Auto Stores in the Phoenix area. It usually is maked down 50%.
Ok, I guess it is the same stuff. What I was seeing was that people that are into rubiks cubes use this stuff to decrease their solve time.
I went to my local Ace hardware. They had the DuPont in stock. When I asked about the Jig A Loo the store manager who I have known a long time thought I was messing with him. Then he looked it up in the store database and although my local Ace has never stocked it he ordered a case in of 20 from another store or warehouse and I pre paid for two cans. I paid 7.99 a can. The note in his data base said that the company who makes Jig A Loo was going out of business.
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I find it funny that nobody will even try something else. Nobody will get faster until we start trying other things.
I was actually thinking while picking this stuff up that the other lubricants probably work just as well.
That can be a great idea, but it can also be miss leading. The way I prep a car and the way you prep a car are different. What might work for you wont work for me. The testing process is one of the most difficult because of all the different variables. One little change can be worth .005 or even more. You'll never know what will work until you test it for your self, just my 2 cents.
[/QUOTE]Chief said:Thats a great idea...lets all post stuff we have tried instead of Jig-A-Loo, that did not work, that way it will save everyone some extra time and money that can be better utilized here in the NPWDRL!!! QUOTE=Kinser Racing]I find it funny that nobody will even try something else. Nobody will get faster until we start trying other things.
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[/QUOTE]Quicktimederby said:That can be a great idea, but it can also be miss leading. The way I prep a car and the way you prep a car are different. What might work for you wont work for me. The testing process is one of the most difficult because of all the different variables. One little change can be worth .005 or even more. You'll never know what will work until you test it for your self, just my 2 cents.
Chief said:Thats a great idea...lets all post stuff we have tried instead of Jig-A-Loo, that did not work, that way it will save everyone some extra time and money that can be better utilized here in the NPWDRL!!! QUOTE=Kinser Racing]I find it funny that nobody will even try something else. Nobody will get faster until we start trying other things.
I agree QT! My point was, people are driving out of their way, calling around, and getting their panties in a wad because they need to get Jig A Loo. All this without ever trying something else.
come on Kinser,the only reason i figerd jig was the first thing to try was watching your cars burn down the track,Then saw your post on all the supplies you use and there were about 5 cans of jig sitting there of course your not concerned ...
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It"s just is funny to me that very few people will try anything else. You saw the jig but did you pay attention to all the other stuff I've tried. Several thousand dollars worth. When is someone else going to try something new?
Kinser,the april race will be my firt offering to the npwdrl,you guys have me very excited about whats going on here! I'v only ever raced on 32' wood tracks with graphite you know the cub scout stuff.but trust me me when i tell you i will be testing many opptions.I live for r&d thats what keeps a racer comming back. Congradulations on your sucsess here !! Hope to someday be a top contender, and mix it up with ya..
I have tried several different things...probably not 2 grand worth, but from what I have found is that either the stuff is too wet or just not slippery enough, and I have tried different techniques with the products as well. I have also tried other stuff other than DD4H krytox oil. I even had one guy tell me from his company that their product was better than krytox and I tried that too amd again with not so good results!
What have you been trying other than Jig Mr. Kinser???
What have you been trying other than Jig Mr. Kinser???
Over 30 years ago, when my boys were in Cubs, I looked up some potential good lubes.
Best- Teflon
Next- Graphite
Next Silicone oil.
That came from studies of friction. I ran out and got the Teflon Powder, some tube graphite, and some spray on silicone oil.
The oil melted the plastic wheel, the powdered Teflon was slow, and so I concentrated on graphite for 30 years. ( but I still would try different Teflon powders that came out)
The first thing I discarded is what we are looking for now, except we would prefer it went to a "dry" film instead of remaining liquid.
I also was impressed that spray on Teflon works way better than all the Teflon powders I ever tried.
And recall that 5 Kids came up with Teflon coated wire as the axle in some very fast cars.
So, is there a chance that a new Teflon coating process will come back and beat Jig? Sure.
Is there a chance that Graphine done in a better way will come back and beat Jig?, maybe.
Now I digress to tell a story about aspirin. Many years ago I was at a big Monsanto plant that made acetylsalicylic acid. That is the main and ONLY important compound in aspirin.
The fellow showing me around asked me what the "best" aspirin was, I said "Bayer", and he said- correct, let's go get some. And he showed me where the pills coming off the line went into about 7 different lines where different letters got punched onto the surface, and the pills went into different size bottles and got different labels. One of the lines stamped "B" and put them in the Bayer bottles and cartons. It was identical to all the other brands they were private labeling. At that time, 96% of all the aspirin in the U.S. came off that line. No matter what brand one could name, he could take you to the final shipping and show you they were making it.
Gentlemen, We are looking for aspirin here. If you are in doubt about it, check out the MSDS sheets.
That does not mean all products will work, just like all Teflon is not usable, but the goal with a large number of vendors is to leave a dry film of silicone after everything else evaporates off. I know Canadians are brilliant, but don't you imagine a few others can do the same thing? (Speaking of private labeling, the blue can stuff was NOT manufactured by DuPont, very similar to the the Bayer process being used by Monsanto, and sending back pills for Bayer to sell under their own name.)
Best- Teflon
Next- Graphite
Next Silicone oil.
That came from studies of friction. I ran out and got the Teflon Powder, some tube graphite, and some spray on silicone oil.
The oil melted the plastic wheel, the powdered Teflon was slow, and so I concentrated on graphite for 30 years. ( but I still would try different Teflon powders that came out)
The first thing I discarded is what we are looking for now, except we would prefer it went to a "dry" film instead of remaining liquid.
I also was impressed that spray on Teflon works way better than all the Teflon powders I ever tried.
And recall that 5 Kids came up with Teflon coated wire as the axle in some very fast cars.
So, is there a chance that a new Teflon coating process will come back and beat Jig? Sure.
Is there a chance that Graphine done in a better way will come back and beat Jig?, maybe.
Now I digress to tell a story about aspirin. Many years ago I was at a big Monsanto plant that made acetylsalicylic acid. That is the main and ONLY important compound in aspirin.
The fellow showing me around asked me what the "best" aspirin was, I said "Bayer", and he said- correct, let's go get some. And he showed me where the pills coming off the line went into about 7 different lines where different letters got punched onto the surface, and the pills went into different size bottles and got different labels. One of the lines stamped "B" and put them in the Bayer bottles and cartons. It was identical to all the other brands they were private labeling. At that time, 96% of all the aspirin in the U.S. came off that line. No matter what brand one could name, he could take you to the final shipping and show you they were making it.
Gentlemen, We are looking for aspirin here. If you are in doubt about it, check out the MSDS sheets.
That does not mean all products will work, just like all Teflon is not usable, but the goal with a large number of vendors is to leave a dry film of silicone after everything else evaporates off. I know Canadians are brilliant, but don't you imagine a few others can do the same thing? (Speaking of private labeling, the blue can stuff was NOT manufactured by DuPont, very similar to the the Bayer process being used by Monsanto, and sending back pills for Bayer to sell under their own name.)
Has anyone tried or thought about trying what "professional" yo-yo'rs use? I don't know what you'd call them. But there's some serious people out there that Yo-Yo and I know they use lubrication for a metal-metal or metal-plastic surface. They refer to a good lubrication as having a long "sleep" time. Basically its when you throw the yo-yo down, the longer it stays there and spins the longer the sleep time. Just wondering if anyone has looked into it. If not I may do a lil trial on them this summer.
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