Thanks guys. It was a great day. Its been a month sence our pack race and my son still runs around the house saying (in his announcer's voice ) gunner jones, pinewood derby champion. I just hope that he wont be to dissapointed if he doesnt do well at districts. The bar was set pretty high to begin with. Im skeptical that we will do well. I have learned alot from this forum and this car was built before i found this forum.