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The ignorance of a grown man fawning over other grown men who race little wooden cars is all that was required on this day.
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The ignorance of a grown man fawning over other grown men who race little wooden cars is all that was required on this day.
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Sorry guys! I'll ask a less interesting question next time.
You ask all you want, I just don't like it when guys give bad advice and they don't know what they are talking about..if you want to be fast then learn from the guys that race not guys that talk about it
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I would like to thank the pinewood Iluminuttys for the entertainment..you jafos are pure entertainment
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I for one would like to apologize to you for my part in turning your thread into something it was never intended to be.
Reggie, no need to apologize on your end. You asked an honest question.
However, next time you have one of these questions ...I would appreciate a heads up ....I want time to get the popcorn ready!
Reggie, I too would like to apologize for my part in derailing your tread. I hope that you find your speed and good luck at the Worlds!
Yes very good... I have these rules as well. 2016 and 2017 are almost virtually identical.If you have the 2016 rules then you will know that Pro Stock absolutely allowed aftermarket axles, but you want someone to provide them?
To quote from the rules of that year:
"Axles:
Nail type axles are to be used. You may or may not choose to use those found in the Official Pinewood Derby kit."
Vs. the Stock rules:
" BSA axles may be polished, deburred and lubricated but must be left otherwise untouched – period."
Ok, I believe that’s being quite manipulative of the phrase but you got me there. You may or may not choose to use those found in the official kit is meant to give flexibility in allowing better (BSA) parts, not vendor parts! If you read the rules at the very beginning it also says all cars... this applies to stock and pro stock shall be built with parts from an official Pwd kit.
So answere one question for me... Why are race inspectors putting magnets to our axles if aftermarket parts are allowed? Why last year was there a rule to have a window to allow for viewing the axle tips and if you didn’t have a window you had to pull your axles for them to inspect?
I guess we should just agree to disagree on these rules. I’m not trying to pick a beef with anyone, but rather stating my opinion here..
Is this a test John? Sometimes I'm a little slow with the punchline. So just in case I drill them canted.So, is it better to drill canted rears or bend the axles?
You are cool Reggie!
You can have your opinion, but IMO it's incorrect. It's practically spelled out for you. The Stock rules say "BSA axles". Pro Stock says "You may or may NOT choose to use the BSA axles". There is literally no way you can interpret that as anything other than "you can use any axles you want as long as they are nail-type". If you CHOOSE to NOT use the BSA axles, what the heck else is there? Aftermarket, a.k.a, "Vendor". Unless you happen to have a lathe and made your own, and that's the exact same thing.
Plus, they have the "rules" then they have the "rules specific to Stock/Pro Stock". Pretty dumb to do it that way, really.
And our axles passed. The guy stuck a magnet to them, it didn't stick. He had something to say about it. "Nickel axles are unfair". I told him exactly what the axles were (aftermarket, stainless, not nickel, lol.... DD4H 92 TX's to be exact) and that the rules said you could use them. He called the head guy over and that was confirmed that they were okay.
So that closes the case. It's not the they were "letting them through"....that's what the rules meant.
Last year was last year. My son was a Webelo II in 2016 so we weren't there in 2017. Couldn't tell you about the "why", but I will hazard a guess that they were trying to tighten up the rules a bit. I can tell you that this year's rules are a bigger mess than they were. I've suggested to them that they could use Mid Am or the NSC rules but apparently they didn't want to.
For Pro Stock, you SHOULD be able to use aftermarket wheels and axles. What the heck is "Pro" about it otherwise, other than the wheelbase? But whatever, we're done unless some of our younger Cubs we help decide they want to go to New York.
Reggie, no need to apologize on your end. You asked an honest question.
However, next time you have one of these questions ...I would appreciate a heads up ....I want time to get the popcorn ready!
Go ahead and get the popcorn started. Round 2 is about to begin.
Good answer!Is this a test John? Sometimes I'm a little slow with the punchline. So just in case I drill them canted.
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