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Vitamin K
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Mr Chips Racing said:
Hmmm, I will decline for the time being. Here's why:
- You've been league racing a lot longer than I have.
- I'm still experimenting with graphite and I haven't made the jump to learning the oil process yet. Fully aware of the superiority of oil, but currently focused on some personal goals.
- I'm not recanting of my opinions based on the winner of a race. It wouldn't prove a thing in regards to the debate, just that one of us built the faster car.
However, rest assured that when I finally get ready to send an oil car to NPWDRL, I will definitely PM you (and everybody else who's been dying to race against me for some reason -- will have to look at those bent axle and groove-axle-friction threads) and y'all can be sure to send in for that.
VK you kill me man. You must have another name.... BUTTERHOLE.
If you don't know who this is go check him out if threads have not been deleted.
Like I said I have raced on and off for a few seasons. How about we make this a graphite only race.
Mono e Mono?
No oil
BASX
The playing field doesn't get any more level than that.
Chips
Ball is in your court brother. I could care less about racing you. I just want you to stop chiming in and not participating. I make my statements, I win a few and loose a lot more but fact is I have been there, done that, and have valid points to my posts. Once you have walked a mile in someones shoes, you have a better knowledge understanding and perspective. You are correct your opinion is your own and we all know what opinions are like..... Everyone has one and they all stink. Yours particularly more than others.
Have a GREAT DAY!
If you don't know who this is go check him out if threads have not been deleted.
Like I said I have raced on and off for a few seasons. How about we make this a graphite only race.
Mono e Mono?
No oil
BASX
The playing field doesn't get any more level than that.
Chips
Ball is in your court brother. I could care less about racing you. I just want you to stop chiming in and not participating. I make my statements, I win a few and loose a lot more but fact is I have been there, done that, and have valid points to my posts. Once you have walked a mile in someones shoes, you have a better knowledge understanding and perspective. You are correct your opinion is your own and we all know what opinions are like..... Everyone has one and they all stink. Yours particularly more than others.
Have a GREAT DAY!
Oh man ... Just when it looks like we are going to have a good ol grudge match it all falls apart!
Sounds like a fair challenge Mr. Chips is offering you VK. Step up to the plate and take a swing at his pitch. Either you strike out or hit a home run. Go Nike and Just Do It!
VK, Best I can tell is that you are sending in an entry over at the APR, you should have it back in time to send it to the NPWDRL. Seeing the race date got moved back a week, it gives you plenty of time to reprep, if you need to.
VK, Best I can tell is that you are sending in an entry over at the APR, you should have it back in time to send it to the NPWDRL. Seeing the race date got moved back a week, it gives you plenty of time to reprep, if you need to.
I only stir the pot on this forum. This is where my loyalties began and will stay. Other forums may exist but I tried to go on one once about 5 years ago and got kicked off the 1st day because I mentioned DD4H. So good riddance.
Here are the odds I am offering.
10/1 VK does not show. However its only fair he commit one way or the other. I will do a graphite car if we are doing a heads up pinks race in BASX. If he is out.... I am running oil to come for the rest of you boys.
I will up the game again. I will pay the $10 entrance fee for VK to race. I figure thats only fair since I will own your car.
Mr. Chips has cashed in his "CHIPS" What will VK do? Someone should post a poll. I won't so it will not look biased.
Here are the odds I am offering.
10/1 VK does not show. However its only fair he commit one way or the other. I will do a graphite car if we are doing a heads up pinks race in BASX. If he is out.... I am running oil to come for the rest of you boys.
I will up the game again. I will pay the $10 entrance fee for VK to race. I figure thats only fair since I will own your car.
Mr. Chips has cashed in his "CHIPS" What will VK do? Someone should post a poll. I won't so it will not look biased.
I will give my basx to V.K if he beats Chips. He will get Chips car and mine. I will putt a 50$ bill in the weight pocket too!
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Vitamin K
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Hrm, it's really weird to have so many people wanting me to send a graphite car in. Especially since neither of us are running Predator wheels (as far as I know), so it doesn't really have much bearing on the actual discussion.
That said, I guess I could easily send my car in to NPWDRL, assuming I get it back from Ohio in time.
If you want a PINKS(?) race, I'd have to ask that you stick to the same limitations that I did. That is, trying to push kit parts as far as I can. So self-deburred and polished BSA axles (not Revell, or any other BSA-clone type axles!), and BSA wheels that have not been professionally machined. Graphite for lubricant. Pledge (or whatever spray you prefer) on the axles. Bore wax is fine too.
That sound reasonable?
That said, I guess I could easily send my car in to NPWDRL, assuming I get it back from Ohio in time.
If you want a PINKS(?) race, I'd have to ask that you stick to the same limitations that I did. That is, trying to push kit parts as far as I can. So self-deburred and polished BSA axles (not Revell, or any other BSA-clone type axles!), and BSA wheels that have not been professionally machined. Graphite for lubricant. Pledge (or whatever spray you prefer) on the axles. Bore wax is fine too.
That sound reasonable?
If you want a PINKS(?) race, I'd have to ask that you stick to the same limitations that I did. That is, trying to push kit parts as far as I can. So self-deburred and polished BSA axles (not Revell, or any other BSA-clone type axles!), and BSA wheels that have not been professionally machined. Graphite for lubricant. Pledge (or whatever spray you prefer) on the axles. Bore wax is fine too.
That sound reasonable?[/QUOTE]
From the description on BASX:
Axles
a. Minimum diameter .084
b. Axles must have a nail head
Wheels
BSA
a. May be CnCed, lathed, polished and/or sanded to true the edge of tread, surface and circumference
b. The tread / contact surface must remain flat and parallel to the bore as humanly possible
c. No Angling, Reshaping, Canting, Round Crowning, Tapering, H-ing, V-ing, Dishing, the outside of the wheels and/or tread surface
d. All markings must remain visible on the inside and outside of the wheel including tread bumps.
e. NO Wheel covers may be used
f. 8.00mm Minimum Tread Width
g. Wheels must weigh at least 2.4 grams and a wheel can be removed after the race to be weighed to confirm weight.
h. The wheels can be trued to get to the 2.4 gram weight but they are not to be cut down intentionally under the weight limit and use foreign material to bring it back to weight.
Key phrase here is it does NOT say it has to be a out of the box axle. And wheels CAN be trued.
With all that being I am ready if you are. We can do graphite or oil your choice.
That sound reasonable?[/QUOTE]
From the description on BASX:
Axles
a. Minimum diameter .084
b. Axles must have a nail head
Wheels
BSA
a. May be CnCed, lathed, polished and/or sanded to true the edge of tread, surface and circumference
b. The tread / contact surface must remain flat and parallel to the bore as humanly possible
c. No Angling, Reshaping, Canting, Round Crowning, Tapering, H-ing, V-ing, Dishing, the outside of the wheels and/or tread surface
d. All markings must remain visible on the inside and outside of the wheel including tread bumps.
e. NO Wheel covers may be used
f. 8.00mm Minimum Tread Width
g. Wheels must weigh at least 2.4 grams and a wheel can be removed after the race to be weighed to confirm weight.
h. The wheels can be trued to get to the 2.4 gram weight but they are not to be cut down intentionally under the weight limit and use foreign material to bring it back to weight.
Key phrase here is it does NOT say it has to be a out of the box axle. And wheels CAN be trued.
With all that being I am ready if you are. We can do graphite or oil your choice.
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Vitamin K
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Fully aware of the BASX ruleset. No need to post it here. Like I mentioned on another thread, I'm currently trying to push the limits of stock parts. That means no aftermarket axles and no professionally trued wheels. I'm aware that this is more restrictive than BASX, but those are the limitations I'm currently building under. I'm not naive enough to think that trued wheels and aftermarket axles aren't going to offer a significant advantage.
Alright VK I see that you are in fact just like the time sucker known as Mr. Butterhole. I race by what the rules state. If you want to build cub scout cars then I suggest racing with them. This is the Pro League and all are welcome to participate. You are correct that trued wheels and aftermarket axles work better and this is why they are allowed. It is a waste of my time to pull items from a box where wheels are all over the out of round spectrum. That is a roll of the dice. Building a quality car takes a skill set and to win requires consistency. There is no consistency in out of box wheels. Its truly anybody's game. Skill to skill. Like parts to like parts. The only reason I have pushed this issue with you is because you want to push your agenda and not willing to step up and put your car where your mouth is. Heads up BASX race. Get your parts from DD4H or one of your other vendors and lets do this. This is your time to put up or shut up. Nobody is going to run out of the box wheels and axles. That is for those who want to loose even at the Cub Scout level.
Chips
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Vitamin K
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Mr Chips Racing said:
For what, eight bucks you can buy yourself four extra tubes of wheels and axles. Select the best out of those and run with 'em. As good as professionally made? Hell no. But more consistent than just shaking the parts out of the box.
Doesn't seem like an unreasonable way to race, especially if your opponent is doing the same.
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