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Mojo is right. I would never do like you suggest and insult Lightning Boy or his X3 design. With Lightning Boy's prior approval, I copied his design and it has served me well. The words antiquated and inferior are yours, not mine. Should the full fender design prove to be needed to be competitive, I'm sure all the top racers will migrate to that design.

So telling someone their design is outdated and inferior is insulting? Yet you do so to Joe and his product on a regular basis. You don't find that telling of an agenda, and just a bit hypocritical ?

My opinion on any product is based on speed and results. If it is not fast enough to be competitive, I will not use or promote it. Can you say the same? I doubt it. You only push the wheel weights to spread bad information and promote your agenda. That agenda is to create confusion and convince people looking for advice to waste their hard earned money. And like most Twatwaffle's, your advice is baseless.

Please be so kind to point to the bad information I have spread.

You admitted you felt DWS fenders have an aero advantage. So I sure hope if anyone posts a thread asking about X3 fenders, that you quickly chime in with your honest opinion and inform them there are better fenders out there, and that many of the top racers are moving away from the X3 because they're just not fast enough any longer.

Yes I like wheel weights, and I'm aware they are not popular with the cult. But I also like Johns Gee fenders, and I don't see them on many cult member cars either, so what's your thoughts on them?...do you feel a racer could win a top level event using Gee fenders?..............yes I know, you're left in a conundrum aren't you ?

The wheel weights have been on the market for years. They had their 5 minutes of fame where everyone ran to buy them.
As a whole, the hobby has rejected the wheel weights. Not because I don't prefer them but because the wheel weight don't have the result to back up your baseless claims. Instead of crying foul, do something that will change everyone's opinion, win with them...

The hobby has rejected wheel weights? LOL....So a few dozen guys who get together constitute the hobby? You really need to step away from racing for awhile to realize just how idiotic you sound.

And again, please be so kind to point to my baseless claims.

I think even you will admit that a few years ago wheel weighted cars won their share of events. So please tell me what has changed in physics , or in the world of Pinewood Derby in the last few years, to now render them ineffective.
 
Hey Ember... evidently you missed this part of what HurriCrane said before you started ranting.... again.

You know... I would say to stop while you are ahead... but you aren't even on the lead lap with this conversation or idea.... do something outside of your comfort zone here (be smart) and go off and lick your wounds... you are only digging a deeper hole for yourself... and trust me... whatever cub dad is coming in here looking for weights for his kid's car will most likely be turned off of the Puma weight system now because of your incessant bantering.

My opinion on any product is based on speed and results. If it is not fast enough to be competitive, I will not use or promote it. Can you say the same? I doubt it. You only push the wheel weights to spread bad information and promote your agenda. That agenda is to create confusion and convince people looking for advice to waste their hard earned money. And like most Twatwaffle's, your advice is baseless.
 
What a train wreck of a thread this turned into!

Ember, why would anyone want to run those Wiggle Weights? They were popular for a short time until apparently everyone but you and Joe figured out a better way. That's how racing goes! It's a shame that Joe didn't listen, he could have saved himself quite a bit of money and aggravation.
 
Mojo is right. I would never do like you suggest and insult Lightning Boy or his X3 design. With Lightning Boy's prior approval, I copied his design and it has served me well. The words antiquated and inferior are yours, not mine. Should the full fender design prove to be needed to be competitive, I'm sure all the top racers will migrate to that design.

My opinion on any product is based on speed and results. If it is not fast enough to be competitive, I will not use or promote it. Can you say the same? I doubt it. You only push the wheel weights to spread bad information and promote your agenda. That agenda is to create confusion and convince people looking for advice to waste their hard earned money. And like most Twatwaffle's, your advice is baseless.

The wheel weights have been on the market for years. They had their 5 minutes of fame where everyone ran to buy them.
As a whole, the hobby has rejected the wheel weights. Not because I don't prefer them but because the wheel weight don't have the result to back up your baseless claims. Instead of crying foul, do something that will change everyone's opinion, win with them...

First let me say that I have followed this post from the beginning (thanks Reggie :eek: ;)) and do not have any bias either for or against wheel weights. I am also new enough that I have no bias for or against any of the people responding to this. I have no dog in this hunt and have nothing to gain


Bracketracer you are correct! What a train wreck of a thread this turned into!

Hurricrane,

I feel your response above is well thought out, considerate and very well articulated! It appears that you have based your building decisions on both what you believe and what the market has done in an effort to build faster cars.

Based on what has transpired here, If I was making a recommendation to a Scout dad, I would tend to steer them toward weighting the body.
 
@ Ember - Instead of crying foul, do something that will change everyone's opinion, win with them...

Please point to where I cried foul anywhere...... You won't, because you can't.

Please point to any baseless claims I've made, or where I spread bad information..... You won't, because you can't.

Please point out why wheel weights used to be competitive, but now are not..... You won't, because you can't.

Please give me your opinion on Gee fenders. You won't, because you're a biased coward who daren't rock that boat.

Not only are you a hypocrite, you're also a disingenuous poser. Because you build a fast car, and know a reserve of mindless buffoons hang on your every word, you feel emboldened to make accusations without merit, with no fear of reprisal from anyone but myself. I give you the credit that is due when it comes to your builds, you play in the deep end on the track. However, here on the forum, you and the dreck that surround you are nothing more than single cell, shallow end dwellers that require the use of floaties.

Since the obvious has seemed to escape you, let me help clear it up . I've never stated wheel weights are better than any other weighting system, only that I like them, and pointed out the advantages they might offer. If you can show otherwise, now would be the time to post it. But you won't, because you can't.

However, you and your zombie henchman on the other hand , have firmly stated they are not as good as other weighting systems, so please take the time to prove your assertions. I'm all ears, please factually explain why wheel weights are inferior. But you won't, because you can't.

Hopefully, today is your turn to use the brain cell, and you can actually muster an answer, instead of simply offering your typical factless drivel.

And remember, you're the one who puffed up and chose to jump into this with the comment "My turn". Well you got your turn, I hope it's all you thought it would be.
 
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This sucks... you can like a comment... but you can HATE a comment.

Hey Doink (That is you Ember)... you have a LOOOOOOONG way to go in this hobby before you have the cred to call a National Champ a poser, a coward, or a hypocrite.

Quit being such an argumentative POS and go away for a while... it will do you some good.
 
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Touch a nerve did I ?

Let's get something straight sport, I've never bashed any of the fellows you mentioned, I don't dislike the players, I dislike the game. So your feeble attempt to garner adulation from your heroes will go about as far as your Unlimited build has gone.

I guess we can check that one off your bucket list! LOL
 
This sucks... you can like a comment... but you can HATE a comment.

Hey Doink (That is you Ember)... you have a LOOOOOOONG way to go in this hobby before you have the cred to call a National Champ a poser, a coward, or a hypocrite.

Quit being such an argumentative POS and go away for a while... it will do you some good.


what do you mean all these races are fixed..just ask those doinks
 
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wheel weights make the car wiggle you idiot..that proves right there..lots of testing has been done

None of my cars with wheel weights wiggle .Apparently none of the wheel weight cars that were winning events a few years ago wiggled . But come to think of it, when I watched last months league race I saw quite a few cars with the wiggles, must have been those damn cube weights.
 
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